ID this old Case tractor

vpd66 · Apr 15, 2013

I bought this tractor this weekend. It needs some TLC but overall seems to be in working order. The guy I bought it from says he thought it was 1958 Case 400B. I looked all over the tractor and I can't find any serial or model numbers on it. It has a gas 4 cylinder engine 4 speed trans with high and low range and a lever to the right of the steering wheel/dash that the guy I bought it from says its for the "Caseomatic". Not sure how it operates but the tractor seems to shift in all gears and drives fine. The tractor has a Eagle hitch and the frontend loader seems to be factory Case and you can still see the Case decal on it. I need a postive ID on this tractor so I can do some TLC to it (Carb kit, ingition parts, brake work, and etc).

bakerg · Apr 15, 2013

Maybe this site will help you, it tells you where you can find the serial number for a 400. No 400B listed on tractor data..
TractorData.com J.I. Case 400 tractor information

stuckmotor · Apr 15, 2013

Here's the 400B TractorData.com J.I. Case 400B 411-B tractor information
For some reason, tractors can sometimes be found at tractordata.com, through a web search that aren't on their manufacturers list page.

bakerg · Apr 15, 2013

Based on the decals on the hood, it doesn't look to be a 400B.

stuckmotor · Apr 15, 2013

Try this one. 1958 Case 400B - TractorShed.com

DT86 · Apr 15, 2013

I bet it's actually a 410B.

Barry 1 · Apr 15, 2013

I would guess a 411b ?? All the pictures I've seen show the tag on the other side just below the throttle. Got any more pictures ?

DT86 · Apr 15, 2013

Barry 1 said:
I would guess a 411b ??

Very well could be. I don't know enough to distinguish a 410 from a 411 in pictures.

vpd66 · Apr 16, 2013

Barry 1 said:
I would guess a 411b ?? All the pictures I've seen show the tag on the other side just below the throttle. Got any more pictures ?

I don't have anymore pictures, but could take any angle you'd like. The tractor is sitting in my driveway. I'm starting to think it isn't a 400b. The guy I bought it from said it was a 400b or 410. Everything I find on a 400b doesn't seem right.

stuckmotor · Apr 16, 2013

What ever it is, it looks like a good old tractor.

vpd66 · Apr 16, 2013

This is getting even more interesting. I did some searching on the internet and I think it is a 411B. I found one website that said the 410B was a utility and the 411B was a row crop tractor. I took a closer look at my tractor today and I don't believe the decals are correct. I can see a new style Case sticker on the front of the hood. I've never seen one with decals like mine. Most have a "Caseomatic" decal where mine says Case. There is also a used equipment dealer sticker on each side, so hard telling how they dolled it up. I need to get this running better and I'm starting with a carb rebuild. Since I'm not 100% positive what model the tractor is, I took the numbers off the carb. It is a Marvel Scheber TSX 749. I never thought it would be this hard to ID a tractor from a company that is still in business. Not much info or pictures of these vintage Case tractor on the internet.

stuckmotor · Apr 16, 2013

This sounds like a job for the Yesterday's Tractors group. Have you asked over there?

vpd66 · Apr 17, 2013

stuckmotor said:
This sounds like a job for the Yesterday's Tractors group. Have you asked over there?

I'll check it out.

stuckmotor · Apr 18, 2013

vpd66 said:
I'll check it out.

Good luck.

vpd66 · Apr 19, 2013

Ok, a little follow up. I received my copy of a I&T C-201 Case/International service manual. It seems there are quite a few different styles of the 400 series tractors. By process of elimination by looking at engine/transmission combos and front axle styles I have come to the conclusion that it is a 411B. I still don't know the exact year, but it has to be 1958-9.

jenkinsph · Apr 28, 2013

I am no expert but I was thinking early 60's on that tractor. Had an older Case SC and a 1370, both were good tractors.

vpd66 · Apr 30, 2013

jenkinsph said:
I am no expert but I was thinking early 60's on that tractor. Had an older Case SC and a 1370, both were good tractors.

I have the cylinder head off now and it has G148 cast in it. From what I read, G148 was used in the 50s and G148B was used in the 60s. Someone did a really bad valve job on it (no margin left on half the valves) and I only had 60psi of compression in one cylinder. I ordered new valves, guides, and a gasket kit. Should run much better.