If there are aliens, what will they look like?

   / If there are aliens, what will they look like? #181  
This pretty much explains why most craters are round. It has nothing to do with impact angle, or dendrology.

From here:

Why are impact craters always round? Most incoming objects must strike at some angle from vertical, so why don't the majority of impact sites have elongated, teardrop shapes?



Why are impact craters always round? Most incoming objects must strike at some angle from vertical, so why don't the majority of impact sites have elongated, teardrop shapes?



Gregory A. Lyzenga, associate professor of physics at Harvey Mudd College, replies:

"When geologists and astronomers first recognized that lunar and terrestrial craters were produced by impacts, they surmised that much of the impacting body might be found still buried beneath the surface of the crater floor. (Much wasted effort was expended to locate a huge, buried nickel-iron meteorite believed to rest under the famous Barringer meteor crater near Winslow, Ariz.) Much later, however, scientists realized that at typical solar system velocities--several to tens of kilometers per second--any impacting body must be completely vaporized when it hits.

"At the moment an asteroid collides with a planet, there is an explosive release of the asteroid's huge kinetic energy. The energy is very abruptly deposited at what amounts to a single point in the planet's crust. This sudden, focused release resembles more than anything else the detonation of an extremely powerful bomb. As in the case of a bomb explosion, the shape of the resulting crater is round: ejecta is thrown equally in all directions regardless of the direction from which the bomb may have arrived.

"This behavior may seem at odds with our daily experience of throwing rocks into a sandbox or mud, because in those cases the shape and size of the 'crater' is dominated by the physical dimensions of the rigid impactor. In the case of astronomical impacts, though, the physical shape and direction of approach of the meteorite is insignificant compared with the tremendous kinetic energy that it carries.



"An exception to this rule occurs only if the impact occurs at an extremely shallow, grazing angle. If the angle of impact is quite close to horizontal, the bottom, middle and top parts of the impacting asteroid will strike the surface at separate points spread out along a line. In this case, instead of the energy being deposited at a point, it will be released in an elongated zone--as if our 'bomb' had the shape of a long rod.

"Hence, a crater will end up having an elongated or elliptical appearance only if the angle of impact is so shallow that different parts of the impactor strike the surface over a range of distances that is appreciable in comparison with the final size of the crater as a whole. Because the final crater may be as much as 100 times greater than the diameter of the impactor, this requires an impact at an angle of no more than a few degrees from horizontal. For this reason, the vast majority of impacts produce round or nearly round craters, just as is observed.
 
   / If there are aliens, what will they look like? #185  
"My point is that there are BELIEFS "

Ah my mistake yesterday, I thought what you said, was in fact based on engineering / maths and that second reply ... not sarcasm. How wrong I was, yup you're NOT replying with anything different than a lady with a bunch of tarot cards for proof. The first remarks about physics was spot on then.
So you can't refute any of my assertions? What BELIEFs do you hold to?
 
   / If there are aliens, what will they look like? #187  
   / If there are aliens, what will they look like? #188  
   / If there are aliens, what will they look like? #189  
"So you can't refute any of my assertions? What BELIEFs do you hold to?"


I can't or don't answer anyone who's making a lot of noise and when asked to show working, won't -- It's really just a little trick some people use, time wasting, shift topic, keep lips moving and people on new issues and ...

I'm right back where I finished off replying, waiting for you to um say something about physics and why you're not scared of it being an engineer ... if you want to talk about cat colours or whatever else I can probably find a tarot card reader near you who will only be too happy to chat about cats.
 
   / If there are aliens, what will they look like? #190  
Please show me an angular impact of a supposed meteor hit on earth where there should be a severe gouge in the earth.
Personally I BELIEVE that the "craters" are the evidence of large trees before the Biblical flood. If you could uproot a large tree what would be left?

To answer your question. The large tree would leave a giant hole 100 miles accross.

My stance would agree with the assessment below. Basically the vast majority of oblique angle meteor strikes still leave round holes, and very few of all strikes have withstood Earth's weather erosion so what you see left are round holes. The very few elongated ones would fill in sooner or be indistinguishable from other tectonic phenomena.

When the meteor hits, all its kinetic energy turns into heat. That process has no memory of the initial direction of travel. The heat melts and vaporizes the surrounding rock and a shock wave radiates outward. For a very large impact, the forces are so far in excess of the strength of rock that the rock is pushed out of the way as if it’s water. This is distinct from melting, which also happens. In fact, some very good analogies for impact processes are slow motion photos of drops splashing.
 

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