Illegal or just confused...

[Jimbrown]

Well I guess Arizona is one of the few states that makes since.
Look at (C) You can tow a 12000 trailer with a regular operator license as long as the combined weight is not over 26000. A class D lic is a regular operator lic.

4. Class D. A class D license is valid for operating any of the following:
(a) A single motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand pounds or less.
(b) A motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand pounds or less that tows a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of ten thousand pounds or less.
(c) A motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand pounds or less that tows a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than ten thousand pounds if the combined gross vehicle weight rating is less than twenty-six thousand one pounds.


My F250 has GVWR of 10,000 and my horse trailer is 12,000 = 22, 000 and no one looks at me once.

 

[SnowRidge]

I agree. That makes sense.

 

[Rara Avis]

How about all of those RVs being towed all over heck and gone that weigh over 10,000? I suppose those drivers all need Class A licenses too. Many many RVs weigh more than 10k.

I own a 10k rated equipment trailer and since Dexter makes 5,200lb axles instead of 5000 lb axles, my trailer tag actually lists 10,400 as the GVWR. Dang it, I guess I am illegal again with my standard driver's license.

RV's have exemptions...
Nothing like a good lobby in Washington, D.C.

RV's AND THE USDOT NUMBERING REQUIREMENTS
OK, here's the rub guys. You can get yourself a nice big toter home and tow your 50 recreational stacker trailer anywhere you want and you won't need to worry about those silly little DOT numbers. You can tow it all day long cover 80ft of road and no worry. No USDOT requirements for RVs used solely for recreational purposes, if you use them for business that's something else and the regulations would apply.

CDL LICENSING
If your gross vehicle weight (GVW) or gross vehicle combined weight (GVCW) are over 26,000 lbs you are most likely required to obtain a Commercial Drivers License (CDL). You might be able to get away with an RV Endorsement if you have an RV, but it varies from State to State and it might be easier just to get the CDL. However, the CDL licensing may kick additional regulations into play. Please contact your DMV office and ask the questions before you decide to get the CDL.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

The specific regulation is 49 CFR 390.3
The FMCSA web site where the regulation and Guidance document are located are at:
Regulations - Guidance - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

 

[Jimbrown]

I agree. That makes sense.

It is a good thing because I bet 90% of the horse trailers inthe state are 12,000 and maybe higher. there are lots of 4 and 6 horse trailers. Now I bet some of the guys pulling with F350 are maybe over the limit. But I have never heard of anyone being challnged on it.

 

[mytoys]

This thread is cracking me up with all the posts. You would think we're defending our right to free speech or religion. Don't get me wrong, i think the laws a crazy too. Maybe we should push for an ammendment to the constitution that says we have the right to tow a big honkin trailer.

 

[shaley]

Yeah, let's form a political action committee called "MoveOn.BiggHonkinTrailer"


Edit: Maybe we can get a guy named "General BrakeUs to head it up."

 

[mytoys]

Amendment 28 - Right to Bear Trailers. Ratified 12/15/2008.

A well regulated tractor, being necessary to the security of a free homestead, the right of the people to transport said tractor, shall not be infringed.

 

[SnowRidge]

Amendment 28 - Right to Bear Trailers. Ratified 12/15/2008.

I think you will need a CDL for a bear trailer, especially if your are hauling a load of browns or grizzlies. Those are big suckers. On the other hand, you might be able to get under the 10K limit with a small herd of blacks.

Don't know why you would need a constitutional amendment to haul bears, though. Seems like a game license ought to be good enough.

 

[mytoys]

Now we've really gotten off track...I can't bear it.

 

[john_bud]

Or was it right to trailer bear? Might be a bit chilly in the winter should you have to check bearings ....

jb



"You can have my Big Honking Trailer when you pry it off my dead coupler"