SnowRidge
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john_bud said:
If you don't know where you are, you have no business hauling bear.
Nuff said.
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If you don't know where you are, you have no business hauling bear.
Nuff said.
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Last time I check, hauling a trailer behind a motorhome on a ball hitch arrangement was ok, but the max trailer allowed in Florida is 55'. So you can go to 80', just be careful how you do it.
A class A CDL covers the big rigs, and the class b covers the straight trucks, such as dump trucks. If they are over 26000 pounds no problem, but if they pull a trailer and it goes over 10K, then they have to have an CDL class A to pull it. If the dump truck driver pulls a trailer below 10K, not a problem dispite his license being for a straight truck.
Class A can pull doubles and triples, with an endorsement, but can't drive a motorhome and pull a vehicle behind it that has a boat on a trailer behind that. In other words, in Florida, doubles and triples are allow only for commercial drivers, and in commercial vehicles, not anything else.
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A class A CDL covers the big rigs, and the class b covers the straight trucks, such as dump trucks. If they are over 26000 pounds no problem, but if they pull a trailer and it goes over 10K, then they have to have an CDL class A to pull it. If the dump truck driver pulls a trailer below 10K, not a problem dispite his license being for a straight truck.
Class A can pull doubles and triples, with an endorsement, but can't drive a motorhome and pull a vehicle behind it that has a boat on a trailer behind that. In other words, in Florida, doubles and triples are allow only for commercial drivers, and in commercial vehicles, not anything else.
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The exemption in Texas on the horse trailers or other farm tagged trailers is if it is not over 20k GVWR then only Class C is all that is required, otherwise Class A is needed.
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I know several that have bought very large Toy Hauler Trailers to haul equipment.
Basically, it is a very large enclosed trailer with at least one ramp and a small sink, stove top and porta-potty... they claim it qualifies as an RV in California...
Basically, it is a very large enclosed trailer with at least one ramp and a small sink, stove top and porta-potty... they claim it qualifies as an RV in California...
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As I've said before, they've tried to make it confusing enough that no one really knows what the law is. One of my brothers and his wife live in a 38' fifth-wheel trailer (RV) with 3 axles and weighs about 21,000 pounds. He pulls it with a 2000 Ford F350 crewcab dually (diesel, of course). And yep, that's a little more than that truck's rated for. But the folks at the drivers license office told him he needed a Class A license, so that's what he has, and he took the driving test with that truck and trailer.
Of course, I don't think the test was too tough for a feller who used to own a Kenworth and Peterbilt and drove a Western Star car hauler delivering new pickup trucks to the north slope when they were building the Alaska pipeline.
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ultrarunner said:
I live just off I-35E and there are many RV dealers up and down this highway very near where I live. And I can tell you that the Toy Hauler must be very popular from the huge numbers of them I see on the dealers' lots. And yep, they're RVs; they have a toilet, a place to prepare and eat food, and a place to sleep. I'm not so sure but what just that last one makes one qualify as an RV.
I've got a 25' 1999 Tahoe toy hauler- was one of the first I ever saw in the east, since then they've exploded. I need to get out one day and see if my BX24 will fit in it That would solve one of my problems, the wife likes to take the toy hauler when we go to our mountain property, but then that keeps me from taking our newly acquired tractor, since I normally haul it on an open trailer We have a little 8x12 shack on the property which has propane heat and AC if I run the generator and a porta potty, suits me just fine to sleep in but you know how the ladies want all the conveniences in the RV, hot showers etc
That would solve one of my problems, the wife likes to take the toy hauler when we go to our mountain property, but then that keeps me from taking our newly acquired tractor, since I normally haul it on an open trailer We have a little 8x12 shack on the property which has propane heat and AC if I run the generator and a porta potty, suits me just fine to sleep in but you know how the ladies want all the conveniences in the RV, hot showers etc
Rara Avis
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This is a just revenue grab by each state...some are just more agressive at the moment of enforcing fairly old legislation...This is from NY...again they purposely seem to omit exceptions...
http://www.nyshc.org/currentissues/CDL Requirements for Horse Trailers.pdf
http://www.nyshc.org/currentissues/CDL Requirements for Horse Trailers.pdf
The person from Farm Bureau in the link you provided or whoever supplied his info about NY State is misinformed. They talk about obtaining a Non-CDL Class C license.PaulChristenson said:
That kind of license was eliminated by NYS back in 2005, so I don't know what he's talking about, unless DMV still hasn't caught up with the changes.
Check this link from NY DMV:
NYS DMV - The Elimination of the Non-CDL Class C License
It explains everything quite clearly. You DO NOT need a CDL to tow a trailer over 10,000 lbs, you can operate with a regular Class D automobile driver's license as long as the combined weight rating is not greater than 26,000 lbs.
This is one case where New York has done something smart for a change. They are conforming to the basic Federal regs, and as someone stated above Arizona also seems to be doing the same. I'm sure many other states must be doing the same or similar. The requirement for a CDL for trailers over 10K would have to be imposed by individual states, like CA; it is not a requirement of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration.NYS DMV said:
