I'm building a wood shed....I need some help

[General Lee]

Got some more done today............ Its just me and the Kubota working this job






I'll go back and either add the hurricane ties or more screws to the rafters. I decided to use the timberlock screws 6'' that take the place of hurricane ties. These timberlocks are bad A**. They really pull the rafter down tight onto the header. Much faster to work with too.

 

[EddieWalker]

Looks great. I'm also a big fan of Timberlock lag bolts. Love how easy they are to drive in compared to traditional lag bolts!!!

 

[clemsonfor]

sometimes you need to remind yourself, It's a woodshed.

yep:confused2:

 

[clemsonfor]

Eddie, thanks for the input. Here are some more pics to help explain what and why I did what I did:

This pic shows a couple things:

- The original horizontal 2x6's used they original pole barn builder. You have to look hard to see the original 2x6 that my joists screw to at the top, and then my 2x6 below it, with the 2x4 screwed to that as a joist ledger board.

- At the top, you can see the 2x4 that comes out of a pole barn 6x6 (unseen) and then ties to the rightmost 4x54 post. You can see the 2nd horizontal 2x4 for the next post and the horzontal 2x6s as well. Since the pole barn 2x6 ares imply nailed to the pole barn, I did not look to them to provide any "pull out" resistance at all. I used my horizontal 2x4s and 2x6s to provide that support.

- You can also see the right most gusset 2x4 that provided my original diagonal bracing.

Another look:

Post to beam and joist to beam detail. If you look closely, you can see the 7/16" particle board that I used to separate and connect the doubled beams to together.

Leftmost beam on the end, post to beam detail and the first joist hanger. You can also see part of LD's gusset as well.

Two of my 4x4 posts were already bowing before I installed them. Oh well. I did not want to use 4x6s or 6x6s because they would not "fit" into the concrete block socket at the bottom and therefore there would be nothing to resist any forces at the bottom of the posts.

by resting the boards on that 2x4 "ledger board" how is that any different that useing a 2x4 for the header where it connects to the pole barn? there is not that much force pushing back toward the pole shed on the rafters right? the screws take weight seems like lots of weight would be on that 2x4

 

[Cord]

Most projects have a good bit of money and time invested, weather done right or poorly. Doing it right is don't cost much in the grand scheme of things.

To that effect, I'd sure like to see the correct fasteners used. The use of metal screws and wood screws through the connector plates would be rejected by anybody inspecting the job. Nails or screws which are designed for the plate should have been used instead. Each manufacture has a cut sheet on the quantity, size and length should be used for the fastener. Personally, I'm a fan of the Simpson product. They have the common N-10 nail, but also 16d and screws available. No excuse to not use the correct fastener.

 

[LD1]

by resting the boards on that 2x4 "ledger board" how is that any different that useing a 2x4 for the header where it connects to the pole barn? there is not that much force pushing back toward the pole shed on the rafters right? the screws take weight seems like lots of weight would be on that 2x4

If screwed or nailed on properly, its alot different.

Look at just general construction. Like basement stair openings. Lots of double joists, yet other joists only tie into the one board. If done right, the 2x4 becomes "part" of the board its attached to.

 

[LD1]

by resting the boards on that 2x4 "ledger board" how is that any different that useing a 2x4 for the header where it connects to the pole barn? there is not that much force pushing back toward the pole shed on the rafters right? the screws take weight seems like lots of weight would be on that 2x4

If screwed or nailed on properly, its alot different.

Look at just general construction. Like basement stair openings. Lots of double joists, yet other joists only tie into the one board. If done right, the 2x4 becomes "part" of the board its attached to.

 

[tbrooks26]

It is a lot different, that's why ledger boards or hangers are used on decks. The board underneath can have a much stronger connection, as said it is "part" of the header, a is a better way to counter act gravity.

I don't have a lot of faith in the timbelocks. They snap just as easy as other screws. They do have they're uses, but you should always use the proper fastner for the job

 

[Citydude]

Note to self; never, ever post on a tractor forum what screws I use on my wood shed.....

 

[General Lee]

Note to self; never, ever post on a tractor forum what screws I use on my wood shed.....

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