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   / I'm showing off my new toy! #51  
Bear,

How many HP is that thing? 50? Is it hydrostatic? Can you load a triaxle with it?
I was loading Mack triaxles this week with my LB115 and I just giggle at how high this NH machine will reach and how much more stable the loader is at max height even with full loads of sub-base, the front tires won't wobble an inch side to side.

Do you miss your 110?
 
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well, I can still load my gravel truck, but not too much giggling as I do it. You will find that you can load a tandem from sitting 10 feet behind it. Those days are dead for me....
 
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That was the thing I disliked the most about the L-39 I had. The stability when raising a high load just wasn't there. Even my CASE 580 would feel a little wobbly with the smallish front tires. The 115 big front tires are what makes all the difference.

I wonder if loading your tires with magnesium chloride wouldn't make a big difference in stability? Or maybe they offer a wheel weight kit?
 
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JCB started making their own after Cat bought Perkins... I don't know dates...

Thanks Scott and Bear, I didn't know that.

Now I'll need to check their site to see if that applies all through the Hp range.
 
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That was the thing I disliked the most about the L-39 I had. The stability when raising a high load just wasn't there. Even my CASE 580 would feel a little wobbly with the smallish front tires. The 115 big front tires are what makes all the difference.

I wonder if loading your tires with magnesium chloride wouldn't make a big difference in stability? Or maybe they offer a wheel weight kit?

Well, I rarely need to load trucks. I can still do it, but its mostly just minor cleanup after a job. I don't want my machine to weigh any more than it does, so no wheel weights anyway.
 
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Thanks Scott and Bear, I didn't know that.

Now I'll need to check their site to see if that applies all through the Hp range.

It appears in the high Hp tractors etc they use Cummins, but up to say 100Hp it seems it is their own engine.

Noticed they make a UTV (link below) and the brochure seems to state that they make a diesel which powered a land speed record of 350mph.

JCB: Groundhog 4x4
 
   / I'm showing off my new toy! #57  
I could have sworn JCB used Mitsubishi in their small stuff. I remember Ford's small ag/industrial stuff having little 3-4 cylinder diesels in them. They had so many "Ford" decals & plates on them, you'd think they were made by Ford, but they were Mitsubishi engines rebadged by Ford. Even when Ford used 5.9L Cummins in their F-800 trucks after they discontinued the 6.6L & 7.8L Brazilian diesels, they rebadged the engines to make them look like they were built by Ford.
 
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well, heres a little review of my little toy. I have put in a big drainfield with it and backfilled a house and dug a soakaway pit. The only thing I had to struggle with was the soakaway pit today. In true engineering fashion, the CB and pit were at the high end of a sloping lot. So the outlet invert was at 4 feet, and I had to trench 20 feet farther, which added over 2 feet of elevation, and then dig 6 feet deeper for the rockpit. So that adds up to 12 feet and I have 10 feet of dig. Hmmm. But it worked out ok. I subcut 2 feet off the top and that did the job. It took me 3 hours to dig it and backfill, but what the hay, 95 an hour for an extra hour probably. The rest of the job made up for it because I could sneak down the side of the lot(6 feet wide) and I bucketed 80 yards of pitrun in and I dropped my little red monster inside the foundation to spread it. So I got it all done in a day and he was happy.

I found a couple more niggles with my toy though. When I was digging the pit I would hang the machine over the pit with the stabilizers supporting me, but they are very short. So it was a little precarious. Another 6 inches per side would be real nice. The ones on the Kubota were really long I noticed. I also found that when I wanted to pull away onto terra firma, It was really hard to move the machine with the bucket, because the hydrostatic transmission gives so much resistance. This is a plus and a minus because you can stop anywhere and it won't roll. This makes trenching actually quite fast because I can lift up the stabilizers and bucket a bit, reach behind me and put it in gear, and drive ahead while facing backward. That is tough to do on a real backhoe because as soon as you lift the stabilizers and bucket, it wants to roll. And theres nothing more terrifying than rolling backwards down a hill in a backhoe while facing the wrong way. Talk about helpless. But the downside is I can't push and pull myself into space like I like to do.

What else. OK, the hydraulics are open circuit, and they don't work unless the revs are up, so you can't even lift the stabilizers at an idle or you risk stalling the engine. And if you do that, you need to set the handbrake to start it again.

The auto leveling went haywire today. It decided I didn't need to roll back the bucket at all, so I disconnected it. Backhoe number three with autoleveling controlled by the microprocesser between my ears, which is how I prefer it anyway.

Found that in addition to a really nice swing up back window, the bottom also removes completely, so that for trenching, you can have the back completely open. It stores beside you, and there's still lots of legroom when you spin the seat. Backhoe is full time 4 wheel drive, so working on pavement you leave a lot of rubber behind. And on turns with a full bucket, it clicks like a ratchet. I assume that is a driveline clutch of some kind. I need to find out.

Air conditioning works like a charm.

Machine is really well balanced. I can load it onto my deckover trailer with the dig bucket inside the cleanup bucket, and extend the stick all the way out and it still doesn't want to tip backwards. Also, I can dig very smoothly with the stabilizers and bucket in the air. I guess I put that down to light weight and smaller profile tires.(less bounce)

What else.... handles the big (way too big) 4 in 1 bucket just fine at up to about 6 feet. but then it doesn't want to lift any higher if its full. Not sure why that is, because I calculated it out before I bought it and it seemed like it should handle it with almost 1000 pounds to spare. I am going to check to relief pressure. The backend has lots of breakout and lots of power. I dug all morning through compacted native 6 inch minus, and it has no problem filling my 3 feet cleanup.

I guess thats it for now. So far so good. I am pretty happy with it. Oh, also, I put 10 hours on it today, about 6 with the front end, and it burned 6 gallons of diesel. I love that part!
 
   / I'm showing off my new toy! #59  
I could have sworn JCB used Mitsubishi in their small stuff. I remember Ford's small ag/industrial stuff having little 3-4 cylinder diesels in them. They had so many "Ford" decals & plates on them, you'd think they were made by Ford, but they were Mitsubishi engines rebadged by Ford. Even when Ford used 5.9L Cummins in their F-800 trucks after they discontinued the 6.6L & 7.8L Brazilian diesels, they rebadged the engines to make them look like they were built by Ford.

Builder you are probably correct, JCB has only one Diesel of 4.4 Litre offering power outputs of 74 - 161 BHP.

JCB Power Systems: Product Range

JCB Power Systems: Product Range
 
   / I'm showing off my new toy! #60  
well, heres a little review of my little toy. I have put in a big drainfield with it and backfilled a house and dug a soakaway pit. The only thing I had to struggle with was the soakaway pit today. In true engineering fashion, the CB and pit were at the high end of a sloping lot. So the outlet invert was at 4 feet, and I had to trench 20 feet farther, which added over 2 feet of elevation, and then dig 6 feet deeper for the rockpit. So that adds up to 12 feet and I have 10 feet of dig. Hmmm. But it worked out ok. I subcut 2 feet off the top and that did the job. It took me 3 hours to dig it and backfill, but what the hay, 95 an hour for an extra hour probably. The rest of the job made up for it because I could sneak down the side of the lot(6 feet wide) and I bucketed 80 yards of pitrun in and I dropped my little red monster inside the foundation to spread it. So I got it all done in a day and he was happy.

I found a couple more niggles with my toy though. When I was digging the pit I would hang the machine over the pit with the stabilizers supporting me, but they are very short. So it was a little precarious. Another 6 inches per side would be real nice. The ones on the Kubota were really long I noticed. I also found that when I wanted to pull away onto terra firma, It was really hard to move the machine with the bucket, because the hydrostatic transmission gives so much resistance. This is a plus and a minus because you can stop anywhere and it won't roll. This makes trenching actually quite fast because I can lift up the stabilizers and bucket a bit, reach behind me and put it in gear, and drive ahead while facing backward. That is tough to do on a real backhoe because as soon as you lift the stabilizers and bucket, it wants to roll. And theres nothing more terrifying than rolling backwards down a hill in a backhoe while facing the wrong way. Talk about helpless. But the downside is I can't push and pull myself into space like I like to do.

What else. OK, the hydraulics are open circuit, and they don't work unless the revs are up, so you can't even lift the stabilizers at an idle or you risk stalling the engine. And if you do that, you need to set the handbrake to start it again.

The auto leveling went haywire today. It decided I didn't need to roll back the bucket at all, so I disconnected it. Backhoe number three with autoleveling controlled by the microprocesser between my ears, which is how I prefer it anyway.

Found that in addition to a really nice swing up back window, the bottom also removes completely, so that for trenching, you can have the back completely open. It stores beside you, and there's still lots of legroom when you spin the seat. Backhoe is full time 4 wheel drive, so working on pavement you leave a lot of rubber behind. And on turns with a full bucket, it clicks like a ratchet. I assume that is a driveline clutch of some kind. I need to find out.

Air conditioning works like a charm.

Machine is really well balanced. I can load it onto my deckover trailer with the dig bucket inside the cleanup bucket, and extend the stick all the way out and it still doesn't want to tip backwards. Also, I can dig very smoothly with the stabilizers and bucket in the air. I guess I put that down to light weight and smaller profile tires.(less bounce)

What else.... handles the big (way too big) 4 in 1 bucket just fine at up to about 6 feet. but then it doesn't want to lift any higher if its full. Not sure why that is, because I calculated it out before I bought it and it seemed like it should handle it with almost 1000 pounds to spare. I am going to check to relief pressure. The backend has lots of breakout and lots of power. I dug all morning through compacted native 6 inch minus, and it has no problem filling my 3 feet cleanup.

I guess thats it for now. So far so good. I am pretty happy with it. Oh, also, I put 10 hours on it today, about 6 with the front end, and it burned 6 gallons of diesel. I love that part!

Wow 6 gal in 10 hours! That's a fuel miser. I would have burned 20.

I noticed the lifting capacity of most FELs is reduced by the extra weight of 4/1 buckets. Obviously, they're heavier. That might be part of the problem. You have a 4/1 that probably weighs 500 more lbs than a GP bucket. You might have to tweak the r/v pressure to compensate for it.

My 115 has definately been tweaked on the hydraulic side. :)

Happily, I don't have too much "roll back" problem since I have a Powershift transmission. It's pretty easy to turn, roll the left hand shifter and put it in 1st to scoot forward a little or just use the dipperstick to push it. Still learning the idiosincracies of my machine, too. I think you might find your machine will give less resistance after it gets broken in. The hydrostatic on my MT285B has some slop in it.

I love the newer machines that have a small controller to creep forward from the b/h position. That was a feature that's been needed since backhoes were invented.

I find that nearly every machine you own or operate has a handfull of drawbacks. Someday I'm going to walk into a dealership and order my perfect machine. In the meantime, this old boy is stuck with finding the best used equipment he can and putting up with the drawbacks. I'm still kicking myself for buying a SRW 1-ton pickup instead of a dually.
 

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