Implements narrower than tractor

[bdog]

I just bought a tractor that has duals on it. I don't really need them but I hear they help a lot with traction and reducing compaction. Problem is with the duals the tractor will be 126" wide to outside edge of rear tires. My disc and drill are wider than this but my chisel is only 9'. Basically would be 9" on each side not covered. This shouldn't be a problem I don't think or would it?

I know you can take the duals off and on but they weigh 1500 lbs a piece and I don't want to fool with that. I either want to leave them on all the time or sell them.

 

[slowzuki]

Should be fine, you could probably pull a larger chisel with that tractor if you are pinching the last pass too much. Are they axle duals or snapons? Duals sure are nice running around on plowed or disced ground to reduce how rough it is too.

 

[bdog]

I know I could probably pull larger but this is what I have. They are axle duals.

 

[slowzuki]

What is the tooth spacing on your chisel? A chisel is different things to different areas of country, something like a disc ripper or just old time chisel plow? Staggered rows or all on one tool bar?

My gut is you'll want to keep them on. If they aren't slid all the way in now you may gain a few inches yet. Are you in a wet part of texas or dry?

 

[Gary Fowler]

You may be able to slid the dual wheel adapter on the axle to shorten the spacing a bit but if you get them too close they wont have any room to shed mud and just slick over like a tire with no tread. It wont hurt a thing to have the tires running inside the plowed area when chisel plowing other than aesthetics with the tire tread showing in the plowed ground.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Another thing you could consider it removing any ballast from the outside tires (duals) so they are easier to handle if you need to remove them. If you don't need the extra weight of the ballast this makes for much less compaction in addition to the ease of handling.

 

[oldnslo]

With the chisel plow don't you want to maintain around 1 foot between the tines? If yes running the edge of the dual next to the last tooth pass would achieve that spacing.

 

[RG1]

I thought that you traded the duals in on some other stuff as part of your deal?

I wouldn't worry about overlap as small as 9". The added flotation and traction are worth it IMO. Any tire tracks in the already plowed dirt should get covered by the throw of the outer chisel on the next pass.

 

[bdog]

Chisel shanks are 13.5" apart. They are staggered on two rows. They are set as wide as they can go and my tires are set as narrow as they can go. I am in dry Texas. The tires are big. I think with no fluid or added weights they are nearly 500lb each. I do this stuff by myself and have a bad back so swapping them on and off will not be happening.

RG1 I was going to trade them in for another implement but in talking with some people they recommended that I keep them. They said better traction, less compaction, and better ride. I was thinking they would make the tractor super wide like 14' but in looking at the manual if you slide the inner tires all the way in and mount the duals close it is only 10' outside to outside which is not too bad to manage. I figure I will try it out and see how I like it. If I don't I am sure I can sell them locally as the dealer did not hesitate a minute on taking them on trade.

I think I will try it as is and see how it works. If need be an easy solution would be to buy two more shanks and weld 12" stubs on the outside of the plow to gain additional width.

I may be overthinking all this I just am anxious for my tractor to get here tomorrow and am trying to run through all the details on getting things set up.

 

[Verticaltrx]

I think you are over thinking it. I would just move the wheels in as narrow as they go and run the duals. Axle mount duals are a really nice option and I wouldn't sell them even if you just take them off and put them in the shed. There are times later when you might want them. What size are they? I've put 18.4-38 and 20.8-38 duals on and off by myself numerous times and it's really not that hard if you have something else with a loader.

I jack up one side so the tire is just off the ground, sling the dual with a chain with the loader, unbolt it and carry it off. Installing them is the same, just jack up one side, block the other side and put the tractor in neutral so you can spin the inner tire to line up the bolts. With a big impact wrench and a loader I can have them on or off in 20min.