In-line small square balers

[slowzuki]

The early 336 had a pole to control the pressure valve on the kicker. My kicker is removed since the pump is missing.

It does have 2 positions, the second can be used for a 1000 rpm pto or supposedly you can angle the tedder and use that input to rake with it. I have never done this successfully.

Last for the other poster, a belt rake isn't an inverter, our euro posters would recognize them though. Picture a 9 ft long belt sander with spring teeth on the belt, turned 90 deg and drug along the ground. The spinning belt and teeth rake the hay to one side.

Whats the purpose of the 'pole' right above the drive line on the baler?

Does your tedder have 2 positions for the drive line...from the pic it looks like a stub to the left of where the drive line is attached.

A 'belt' tedder is an inverter?

 

[jimg]

Thanx Ken
Given your description Ive seen a pics of a 'belt tedder'. Ive never seen a implement w/ double drivelines -- 1 for 540 and the other 1000. What make is it? Nice farm you have!

 

[slowzuki]

The castings are all similar to old Kuhn's but it is actually a Deutz-Fahr tedder. They sold a bunch of them here in the 80's but you can't get parts for them now. That one has a busted input bearing right now and a pair of sheared drive couplings, hope to find some parts some day to fix her up.

Thanx Ken
Given your description Ive seen a pics of a 'belt tedder'. Ive never seen a implement w/ double drivelines -- 1 for 540 and the other 1000. What make is it? Nice farm you have!

 

[jimg]

One more comment on the belt tedder. It seems these really are more rake/inverter than tedder. Guess Im not quite understanding their function. The way I understand it these either rake swathed hay into a loose windrow or move (invert?) and relocate an existing windrow. Am I understanding that correctly?

 

[slowzuki]

They are pretty good units for a small operator, they have lots of functions.

The part I didn't mention is there is an adjustable stop arm with tines to catch hay coming out from the rake and they is an adjustable diameter drive pulley on some models to change the speed.

You can rake a swath or tedded hay into a nice windrow with the arm in place.

You can take the arm off and spit the hay out at high speed spreading it out like a tedder.

You can roll windrows over or move them over a bit less than 9 ft. This can be used for merging too.

The drawback to the machine, is its only 9 ft wide. It will do its job as fast as you can stay on the tractor but it gets rough on the tedder going over bumps and dips off course.

I'm looking to fix my wider tedder for two reason, the belt tedder needs a clean spot to throw hay in order to ted and wider is faster.

I have thought about mounting the rake on my loader and powering it by a hydraulic motor to rake right into the baler pickup to save raking separately. I often have no time and no second tractor to do the raking.

One more comment on the belt tedder. It seems these really are more rake/inverter than tedder. Guess Im not quite understanding their function. The way I understand it these either rake swathed hay into a loose windrow or move (invert?) and relocate an existing windrow. Am I understanding that correctly?

 

[jimg]

I see...so this is not unlike the combination rotary machines like the Lely Lotus. Only diff is the material moving mechanism.

 

[slowzuki]

The rotary combo machines ted much better and spit out behind so you don't need a clean spot to throw it.

The rotary combos don't double rake well and can't move a windrow as far.


The best solution I can see is a big rotary tedder and big rotary rake but with only 300$ into a belt unit, it puts more $ in my pocket.

 

[mark.r]

Where would you place the condition of this baler? I know pictures can only tell so much but just being curious. I am not buying, just trying to get educated.

 

[chh]

It's real hard to say from the pics, plus I've never run a square baler either, but a pic of the knotters might have told more. It looks like several of the pickup guards have been replaced and what is up with the bale chute on the back? Overall the paint looks nice, but my guess is that this machine has seen a lot of hay, but been stored inside or under cover. Other than that I couldn't say too much.

 

[mark.r]

I just got back from my local NH dealer. I dealt with them in the past and they are good guys. I had never dealt with them in terms of large or AG related equipment because at the time we only had a Ford 1220 compact. At any rate I stopped by to check out the TN, TD, and 6000 series tractors as well as their Kuhn line and of course their NH hay line. What I did find was intersting. They had at least 5 used 565 and 575 balers in hand, all except for one that were in excellent condition. Secondly, they had a new 565 baler on the lot and on feature that I noticed it had was a swinging hitch that alot it to be towed directly behind the tractor. I don't remember anyone mentioning this and I don't know if older versions of the baler had this feature or not. But this was one of the features of the inlne baler that was appealing to me. It would all allow for much easier transport in high traffic areas an narrow roads.