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Bob,

No offence take it more than sucks and i am not trying to justify it but i do wonder if out wide sparse enviroment does not help (few people to service over wide area)

Also corperate rates are different http://www.ato.gov.au/large/
 
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The present tax system is outdated and corrupted enough that it should be changed. That's for sure. It should be replaced with either the National Sales Tax or Flat % Rate Tax. If the Flat Rate tax is choosen, the Capitol should declare poverty level, say $15K per household, and tax everybody the same percent rate. Food and medication should be tax free. Absolutely no deductions of any kind, it promotes corruption $ fraud. My2¢I
 
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Don'r really know what all this TAX fuss is about. Live below the poverty level and no problems! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Egon
 
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Don,
I completely agree with You.

No matter what kind of song and dance they announce, It is going to end up Costing Us in the long run.

I doubt they would go to all the trouble of doing making drastic changes unless More Money was involved to pour in the Pork Barrel. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Egon:

<font color="blue">Don'r really know what all this TAX fuss is about. Live below the poverty level and no problems! </font>

Amen. (Oops, sorry to bring up religion). The problem, of course, is that many human beings want to better themselves. This requires work. Work is punished. So lots of people say what the heck. So those that don't want to work want to live off those that do. If they steal it directly (like sticking up filling stations) they get themselves into trouble (the victims fight back). So they hire politicians who pass laws which are enforced at the point of a gun so they can live without competing. And all the good citizens say, well, we had elections.

Using the money system makes it easier. They get folks looking at "tax rates" and "poverty levels" and "inflation" and "low interest rates" and "goods vs services" and so on. If you want to know what's REALLY going on count up the people who are actually producing things and those that are not. You will find the ratio of unproductive to productive has been getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger and bigger. You got all those folks out there eating and all the other stuff they do. But they're not putting anything into the pot. Everybody else is working, working and working, producing more, but they're not getting very far. To get ahead anymore you have to produce FASTER than they can steal it. Difficult to do.

Bob_Surka: In one sense everything is labor (ie. the source of all goods). But in an ECONOMIC sense, labor HAS NO VALUE. No one, I repeat no one, pays anything for labor in and of itself. They pay for the consequences of labor, ie. the end result of applied labor. I hate to tell you this, but, in spite of what you may have learned in college, Karl Marx had it totally backwards. Labor is worthless in and of itself. You pay for manipulation of material (to assemble it, move it, machine it, dig it out of the ground, etc. etc.), NOT the labor used. You pay for the end product. So, "services" as distinct from "goods" is nonsense.

JEH
 
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"They get folks looking at "tax rates" and "poverty levels" and "inflation" and "low interest rates" and "goods vs services" and so on. "

To paraphrase Pogo from years ago, They is Us.

Chuck
 
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Libertine, what you said is true, as far as it goes. But, you make it sound like the only thing that taxes are used for is to support the people who don't pay taxes because they have low income, and that's not exactly true. In fact, the expenditures you describe probably make up a tiny portion of the the tax spending. A large amount goes in the form of military spending and corporate welfare, and lines the pockets of the ones who have already accrued more than most, and who have enough to pay for a tax policy that lowers their own taxes while increasing the burden on the middle.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( At Thanksgiving I generally have about 80 to 100 relatives here, )</font>
NOW THAT MUST BE ONE HECK OF A DINING RM. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Does the phrase "they're everywhere!" paint a good picture for you? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif My trash man really loves me the next day too! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Generally some of them wonder around the property and play touch football, volleyball, horse shoes, or use the paddle boats. This year it was in the upper 30's with a 40 mph wind. Nobody wanted to venture outside! Heck, they were building fires in my fire places for me for a change!
 
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