Installing Toothbar...Question????

[bartman]

Just purchased a WR LONG toothbar from Carver...Cost was $300 to the door
When I slip the toothbar over the (welded) on bucket edge,the front edge of the bucket does not fit entirely into the \/ or crotch of the toothbar.There is approximately a 3/8 to1/2 inch gap. I ground down some of the bucket edge to get it this far on

I have not yet curled my bucket and raised the front of the tractor to put additional weght on the bucket to force the toothbar into place (as suggested on previous posts)
I am hesitant to do this at this point because I am going to need to remove the bucket easily for a few other projects that do not require a toothbar. This may cause the toothbar to jam onto the bucket.

Now for my questions????

(1)DO I just quit moanin and begin drillin and not worry about it,cause after all it's an 18 year old bucket with some wear and dents and I shouldn't expect a perfect fit
(2) Send the bucket back to Carvers and try some other dealer? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Bartman

 

[bartman]

ANother look

 

[bartman]

The last one.......... Iam going to the moutains trout fishin and will see what the TBN jury recommends

Thanks Guys

Bartman

 

[BobG_in_VA]

I have a WR Long (78") HD toothbar also. Mine went on slick as whale s..t. I wouldn't fret too much about the fit. Drill it MAN! After all, it won't come off when you push into a pile and it won't come off when you back out. I'm sure some of the more "particular" people here will suggest that you send it back but it's almost a perfect fit as it is; as you don't want it sitting against the blade edge. My opinion, as usuall, comes with a $.02 money back guarantee. BobG in VA

 

[jinman]

I think you should try to force it into place or as far as it will go and then bolt it in the side slots. When you get ready to take it off, hook the tines on something where they end on the bottom of the bucket and back your tractor up. That should pop it off. If not, you'll probably still have a space between the front of the cutting edge and the tooth slot where you can put something in and pry a little to get the toothbar started off.

Buckets and toothbars take a beating in normal use. I don't think you should worry about giving it a little "beating" when you remove it. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[RoyJackson]

I used a mallet to seat my toothbar as far on as possible. I might have a ¼" gap at the "crotch". The mallet was a dead-blow type and I used a short length of 2x4 held against the teeth. I worked one end a bit, then the other end.

When I did the original installation, I curled the bucket up and had it resting on a couple of jackstands (better working height).
When I remove the toothbar, I have the bucket curled down a few inches off the ground. If the toothbar doesn't come off by gravity, a couple judicious taps with a mallet gets it off. Again, use a short length of 2 x 4 to actually drive the toothbar off. That saves the mallet's face.

In your situation, I reccomend you see if you can tap it further on the wear edge. Tap...not any more, then see if you can remove it as I described above. If that works, get it seated again, then drill those mounting holes.

Good luck

 

[Bird]

I agree with the other guys; wouldn't worry about it. I'd try to force it on back if it'll go, then put the bolts in whether it goes back any farther or not. Like Jim said, you can hook it on something and back away to remove it, or else a 4# hammer will knock it right off there.

 

[KiotiJohn]

Just for the sake of a concensus, I agree that there seems to be no problem with what you have now. As long as the bottom portion of the toothbar is under the cutting edge, and you bolt it in with it as far back as you can get it, there should be no problem. Just go and enjoy it. John

 

[surfran]

Heck I might as well put in my 1/2 cents worth. I would think as other you can always use a hammer/mallet to remove. As for location, I would want it all the way back so the forces are on the bucket edge and not on the two mounting bolts. On mine, I have to use a slight persuasion to put on , but I slotted my mounting holes (on the toothbar side) so it would allow it to move back if the forces deemed it necessary. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( On mine, I have to use a slight persuasion to put on , but I slotted my mounting holes (on the toothbar side) so it would allow it to move back if the forces deemed it necessary. )</font> Looking at one of the pictures I see that the toothbar mounting holes are slotted as they are on mine. Mine doesn't exactly fit all the way down on the cutting edge either, but it hasn't been a bit of problem and the pressure IS being put at the cutting edge as the teeth are touching up under and on top of the cutting edge. I've put it through a lot, and no problems i.e. bending teeth, bucket, etc. John

 

[Inspector507]

MY WR Long toothbar fit the same way. I thought they made it angled like that to fit different thickness' of cutting edge. Anyway.......thats the way it fit, so I bolted it down and don't see how there could ever be an issue the way it is.

Edit.....
Do a search in the Photo forum on Toothbar Turorial complete picture guide to my installation.

 

[DK35vince]

bartman,
My WR Long toothbar did the same thing.
I had a couple of the V groves hitting before the rest, holding the toothbar out.
I used an angle grinder on the toothbar V grooves that were holding it from going all the way back.
Only took a few minutes of grinding and it fit nice and tight.

 

[bartman]

Hey Guys

Thanks for all the responses regarding the toothbar installation!! After I come back from trout fishin up in your neck of the woods Vince ,I am going to drill the holes and bolt her up. I may try grinding a bit off the toothbar as Vince suggested but I won't get **** about it .I'll just do it and wait for the rain to quit so I can use it

Thanks again for all the replies

Bartman

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'll just do it and wait for the rain to quit so I can use it )</font> Shoot Bartman, I get some of my best digging done in the rain, the grounds softer! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif John

 

[bartman]

Hey Kioti John
Here's my water problem, I am trying to get rid of this water. When I drive the tractor in it I sink down about 12 to 16 inches Got to let it dry up a bit. Check out a couple of pictures I am posting

Bartman

 

[bartman]

Another picture!!

 

[KiotiJohn]

Yep. That's just too wet. Of course, with the loader on, you probably won't have to stay stuck as you can crawl out with the loader, but why force the issue? I hope it clears up soon and you can get to the work. Start before it gets too dry, and you'll have a much easier time of digging out small trees etc. John