INTEREST TO ALL

[LazyK]

BRANCH...sometimes, especially 'round this time of year, I think of when I lived in Alaska...no sales tax, no state income tax, no 'use' tax, vehicle registration...max. 30-40 bucks AND $900-1200
paid to each AK resident each year 'bout this time from the Permanent Fund Dividend Account!
I'll say definitely that living in Washington State is more expensive than Alaska. In California, where I also pay taxmax, it's now beyond tolerance. Guess who's eyeballing Oregon or Idaho? I don't think horses(my wife's) care where they drop doo-doo. I do.

Lazy K - Chip

 

[LazyK]

Bob...'wonder what a parade of 10,000 or so tractors would look like and feel like banking off I-5 into Sacramento from the north and southbound lanes at about 3:30pm on a week day while the legislature is in session? Is this how tea parties get started?

Lazy K - Chip

 

[Thomas]

Chip,
Remember when the farmer went to Washington on there tractors to protest for higher prices for there products in the mid eighty,that sure slow traffic down for hours.

Come right down to it,anyway they can make a buck {raise taxes or a new tax}they will try there darnest.


Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[LazyK]

THOMAS...I do remember. Some rigs of the serious size persuasion were in attendance, as I recall.
Some pretty P.O.'d dudes to haul one o' them two-story combines into the loop in DC along with a few machines that had to negociate the streets with great care for the groundlings.
'Way I see it, we could stage out of the Rest Stops that boarder everyones' State Capitols and then.........

Lazy K - Chip

 

[bcarter]

I don't know what its like in other states, but here in Taxachusetts if I buy a new car I pay sales tax on the purchase price regardless of where I bought it. I'm not sure what the rule is if I lived in another state a bring a car into Massachusetts...I think that I only pay the sales tax if the purchase in the original state had no tax applied. The kicker is that when I sell a car in this state the buyer pays sales tax on that transaction's price. These folks tax the same car over and over everytime it gets sold! ...and forget about selling the car for $1, they use the book value to figure the tax if the sales price is lower than the book price. Now there's a racket...

Does anyone have any figures to compare costs in different states?

For example:
- My sales tax is 5% of the purchase price with no tax on clothing or food.
- My vehicle registration fees are $35 every two years (renewals used to be free after the intial registration as long as the registration remained in good standing, but they "repealed" that last year - don't go there /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif)
- I get to pay a yearly excise tax on any registered vehicle's value ($25 per $1000 of book value)
- State income tax is 5.95% for income (was only 5% but they raised it "temporarily" to pay for something or other...haven't seen it come down yet - don't go there either /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif) and 12% for capital gains.
- Property tax varies by town, but most are around $16-$20 per thousand of full market value per year. (Refigured every 3 years)
- We also have some interesting taxes on land transfers too, but I can't remember the %.

Any other MA residents think of any I missed?

Can any of you other folks beat that? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I'm betting that the gang in CA can and maybe the folks in NY too...


Bill

 

[Branch]

Reading back over this made me remember an article I saw in the paper not too long ago. It was about the $350 charge for vehicles brought in from other states. California was warned by their legal types that the charge was illegal but they went ahead and did it anyway. At the time they implemented it we were going through a recession, taxes intake was low, but they figured they could get away with it. Someone fought it and won, and now they're supposed to return the money. Fat chance that everyone who paid it for the last 7-8 years is going to get it back.
Anyway, I wonder if this tax is legal. They're obviously not shy about intentionally, knowingly, blatantly stealing if they get the urge.

 

[scruffy]

Chip,
I think the impact would be greater if they arrived during the morning rush hour, and left after a full day of protest, at the afternoon/evening rush hour!
I also wonder how many farmers this will push over the edge, and out of business.
Lord knows, we are taxed enough! If you total all taxes, hidden, and readily apparent, it would/will total in the 50 to 60% range. Add in death taxes, and a family has to gross millions in order to pass down a couple bucks to their family's when they die. Something ain't right about the whole affair.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Chip,

Saw your remark about "looking at" Oregon.
You make me appreciate my situation: 15 miles from the state capitol in Oregon- just under 21 farm/forest-zoned acres. No house yet...living in 5th wheel, with nice 40x60 concrete slab/metal truss shop, artesian well,deer, etc.

Sales tax? No! Auto registration? Maybe 15-25 $/yr. Property taxes? (+/-) $275/yr. (Yes, PER YEAR!)

All is not quite rosy, though... Combined Fed./State income taxes (+/-) 30%.

The grass always looks greener, ... but sometimes it IS (at least a little-bit)!

Escaped from Miami 25 years ago... added 25 years to my life!

I think there's room for a few more Tractorbynet good-guys

Larry

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Chip,

Tea-party? ...Revolution?

Now you've done it! You've got all of our names on the CIA's 'suspect" list after their electronic "key-word" net picks this up and "flags" us!

(anybody else see that story on "60 Minutes" a couple times?)

So allright, we have it better than MOST of this world... but we could have it so-much-BETTER

Larry

 

[LazyK]

L.H.S....Just kidding... I hate tea myself...Irish as I am, I like a wee bit o' the Tillamore Dew.
Gawd! Now I'm pegged as IRA. Hey, Guys...I'm a simple taxpayer looking for a good reason to feel good about pre paying 5-digit quarterlies year after year knowing that I've busted my and my Family's arse serving my Country on stand-by in NORAD readiness, SAC Missile Launch Ops, ALASCOM
Top Cover etc. and worked the American Way to be a Working American Family contributor unit. If I use my lungs, don't tax the air; if I walk the road, don't tax my load!

Lazy K - Chip