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Bird
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If your JD was sold at Home Depot then it's junk )</font>
I guess you know a comment such as that provides no useful information to anyone. If you don't want people to buy a JD at Home Depot, that's fine, but try telling why; i.e., is the same model from a JD tractor dealer different? How is it different? What is wrong with the ones Home Depot sells? If anything. How much use have you had, and what kind of use have you had, or observed, with a Home Depot JD and what problems did you see that lead you to the conclusion that they are junk? In other words, please be more specific if you want your comment to be taken seriously.
I can tell you the limit of my own experience with the JD at Home Depot is looking at them; i.e., in other words, no experience at all, so I have no opinion as to their quality one way or the other.
I guess you know a comment such as that provides no useful information to anyone. If you don't want people to buy a JD at Home Depot, that's fine, but try telling why; i.e., is the same model from a JD tractor dealer different? How is it different? What is wrong with the ones Home Depot sells? If anything. How much use have you had, and what kind of use have you had, or observed, with a Home Depot JD and what problems did you see that lead you to the conclusion that they are junk? In other words, please be more specific if you want your comment to be taken seriously.
I can tell you the limit of my own experience with the JD at Home Depot is looking at them; i.e., in other words, no experience at all, so I have no opinion as to their quality one way or the other.
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As Bird says, your comments are just that - comments.
The same tractors Deere sells at the dealer are the same ones that are sold at Home Depot. Made in Horicon, WI and exactly the same. They are not the high end, nor are they the high end price. You get what you pay for.
In my opinion, and it is just that but shared by some die-hard and proud CC owners, the CC suffered when taken over by MTD. For about 10 years, the MTD label wasn't on the yard tractors. All heck broke loose when the label Cub Cadet by MTD showed up. A neighbor of mine was one of those really upset. He has green now.
Deere and CC are only (again, IMO) after market share. I suspect HD worked hard to get the Deere program going for them. A certain volume of people shop at Lowes and HD, and buy what they see there. The HD sales for Deere have been beyond their wildest imagination, according to the Horicon Engineers, when I visited there a bit over a year ago.
True, the shop service guy at my local Deere dealer says that people (who bought from HD) show up there with belts off, tires flat, plus other small things that if the dealer had sold the unit, it would be fixed out of courtesy to the customer. But when it was purchased at HD, the repair comes with a charge for the service. One needs to be aware of that when buying at a box store, because as has been well stated here, they only sell them. Even the set-up is done by Deere technicians, according to the information I have, and not by HD employees. It's part of the deal worked out by Deere and HD, I understand (and I even know that much /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ).
The same tractors Deere sells at the dealer are the same ones that are sold at Home Depot. Made in Horicon, WI and exactly the same. They are not the high end, nor are they the high end price. You get what you pay for.
In my opinion, and it is just that but shared by some die-hard and proud CC owners, the CC suffered when taken over by MTD. For about 10 years, the MTD label wasn't on the yard tractors. All heck broke loose when the label Cub Cadet by MTD showed up. A neighbor of mine was one of those really upset. He has green now.
Deere and CC are only (again, IMO) after market share. I suspect HD worked hard to get the Deere program going for them. A certain volume of people shop at Lowes and HD, and buy what they see there. The HD sales for Deere have been beyond their wildest imagination, according to the Horicon Engineers, when I visited there a bit over a year ago.
True, the shop service guy at my local Deere dealer says that people (who bought from HD) show up there with belts off, tires flat, plus other small things that if the dealer had sold the unit, it would be fixed out of courtesy to the customer. But when it was purchased at HD, the repair comes with a charge for the service. One needs to be aware of that when buying at a box store, because as has been well stated here, they only sell them. Even the set-up is done by Deere technicians, according to the information I have, and not by HD employees. It's part of the deal worked out by Deere and HD, I understand (and I even know that much /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ).
Bird
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I do wonder about the warranty on the Deeres sold by Home Depot. I have no personal knowledge at all, but a brother-in-law in another state, just this past week, told me that he talked to a John Deere dealer and that dealer told him, "If you buy it from us, we do the warranty work. If you buy it elsewhere, we won't touch it under warranty." If that's true elsewhere, I'd be reluctant to buy from Home Depot or from the Deere dealer with that attitude.
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My dealer said they do warranty work, regardless of purchase location. But they don't do the 'freebies' that sometimes look like 'warranty' but cannot be re-couped from Deere.
This dealership takes care of set-up for a HD about 20 miles from their shop.
Personnaly, I don't like to see Deere 'stooping' to the HD level of sales, and also didn't like to see the 'Sabre' line with the off-green paint jobs. But, ignoring market share and giving it to others is apparently not part of the Deere strategy. They don't listen to me. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif And I suspect all companies are looking at the market for 'their share' of the action. Just a survival thing.
My dealer said they do warranty work, regardless of purchase location. But they don't do the 'freebies' that sometimes look like 'warranty' but cannot be re-couped from Deere.
This dealership takes care of set-up for a HD about 20 miles from their shop.
Personnaly, I don't like to see Deere 'stooping' to the HD level of sales, and also didn't like to see the 'Sabre' line with the off-green paint jobs. But, ignoring market share and giving it to others is apparently not part of the Deere strategy. They don't listen to me. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif And I suspect all companies are looking at the market for 'their share' of the action. Just a survival thing.
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Even if Cub pulls out of the Lowes scene, they are still at the TSC stores. Does anyone know how Cub is faring with TSC?
JTKub
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...The same tractors Deere sells at the dealer are the same ones that are sold at Home Depot. Made in Horicon, WI and exactly the same. They are not the high end, nor are they the high end price....)</font>
I can't find the supporting thread /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif, but the deere "L" series are not made in Horicon WI, they come out of a JD owned facility in Tennessee if I remember correctly. The same facility that used to pump out the orange "scotts" machines.
G/luck
Joel
I can't find the supporting thread /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif, but the deere "L" series are not made in Horicon WI, they come out of a JD owned facility in Tennessee if I remember correctly. The same facility that used to pump out the orange "scotts" machines.
G/luck
Joel
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Here is the deal! CC IS pulling out of lowes.because the true life line of CC is the dealer and he is hurting.... )</font>
I don't think this is the case at all. I don't have any supporting data for proof, but MTD/CC wants to pump out as many units as they can & gain as much of the market share as possible, just like any other business. Selling them thu 'big box' is just another way to get'em out there. I'm still thinking this is profit driven & SLowes isn't making what they need to for the CC 1000's to occupy floor space. MTD may be getting a bit greedy here.
G/luck
Joel
I don't think this is the case at all. I don't have any supporting data for proof, but MTD/CC wants to pump out as many units as they can & gain as much of the market share as possible, just like any other business. Selling them thu 'big box' is just another way to get'em out there. I'm still thinking this is profit driven & SLowes isn't making what they need to for the CC 1000's to occupy floor space. MTD may be getting a bit greedy here.
G/luck
Joel
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That could well be correct. I saw the L series at Horicon in the show and sales rooms, but don't actually recall seing them on the assembly lines. I was most interested in the 4wd gators and the stamping and welding of the decks and tractor frames.
I would easily stand corrected on that point. Thanks.
I would easily stand corrected on that point. Thanks.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Those JD's at Home Depot are junk. )</font>
I see you've made sure you posted that comment in two different responses. Gee, that seems funny. I've heard the exact same thing about the Cubs sold at Lowes. So, I suppose all JD and CC products priced below, say $10,000, are total junk. Hmm. Something makes me think your comments are unsubstantiated and based totally on your own personal dislike of Deere for whatever reason. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I suppose I have to agree with Bird in that generalized comments such as that don't really serve any purpose other than show your own particular bias.
I see you've made sure you posted that comment in two different responses. Gee, that seems funny. I've heard the exact same thing about the Cubs sold at Lowes. So, I suppose all JD and CC products priced below, say $10,000, are total junk. Hmm. Something makes me think your comments are unsubstantiated and based totally on your own personal dislike of Deere for whatever reason. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I suppose I have to agree with Bird in that generalized comments such as that don't really serve any purpose other than show your own particular bias.
