Interesting Towing Test

[Peacock]

I'd guess the Toyota and Nissan V8's have forged cranks. I'm almost certain the 6.2 GM does. The newer 5.3 may also. Not sure.

It's not the crank that will fail. Typically a nodular iron crank is tough as nails and can withstand much higher power than you could imagine.

I'm not putting down the EcoBoost. I'm not trying to offend you either. I'd likely get the same engine myself if I was to buy a 1/2r Ford. I'm sure yours will give you good service.

 

[jejeosborne]

I'd guess the Toyota and Nissan V8's have forged cranks. I'm almost certain the 6.2 GM does. The newer 5.3 may also. Not sure.

It's not the crank that will fail. Typically a nodular iron crank is tough as nails and can withstand much higher power than you could imagine.

I'm not putting down the EcoBoost. I'm not trying to offend you either. I'd likely get the same engine myself if I was to buy a 1/2r Ford. I'm sure yours will give you good service.

I appreciate a good conversation no offense taken. I hope that it will hold up as well. I was a little nervous buying it the first year of production and being a guinea pig. As years pass, I feel more comfortable that they built it right and it has given me great service. There are a lot of people who are major anti-ecoboost for unfounded reasons and hope to see these engines fail. I am not brand loyal to anyone and purchase what I feel meets my needs the day of purchase. I will defend the ecoboost from non-believers until mine fails. LOL

 

[ruffdog]

The crank and the entire block failed on this EB just cruising down the highway. At least the turbo PT Cruiser had a iron block. http://www.f150forum.com/f70/blown-ecoboost-wtf-pics-inside-170270/index10/

 

[ruffdog]

This guy did a good job explaining the condensation in the CAC problem very well. It's a good read.Does Your EcoBoost Shudder? Here's the Problem | Blue Springs Ford Parts Blog

 

[fordmantpw]

The crank and the entire block failed on this EB just cruising down the highway. At least the turbo PT Cruiser had a iron block. http://www.f150forum.com/f70/blown-ecoboost-wtf-pics-inside-170270/index10/

And my brother's PowerStroke threw a rod through the side of the block while driving. It was an iron block as well. Those pictures just go to show that nothing made by man is perfect, and there are bound to be failures. Based on the number of severe failures of the EcoBoost so far, I think Ford has done an excellent job.

 

[crazyal]

A good test if you live in the Rockys. However since I don't live near them it means nothing to me.

 

[jejeosborne]

The crank and the entire block failed on this EB just cruising down the highway. At least the turbo PT Cruiser had a iron block. http://www.f150forum.com/f70/blown-ecoboost-wtf-pics-inside-170270/index10/

You already posted that link earlier.
Here is one from a low powered GM 5.3 liter, same story, driving down the highway:
http://chevroletforum.com/forum/sil...-silverado-5-3-threw-rod-through-block-57136/

 

[Diamondpilot]

A good test if you live in the Rockys. However since I don't live near them it means nothing to me.

Why not? Just look at the zero to 60 times pulling a load and the distance needed to do so shows a lot.

Chris

 

[Peacock]

Why not? Just look at the zero to 60 times pulling a load and the distance needed to do so shows a lot.

Chris

Not near what a 10-20 minute hard pull at altitude would.

A couple of years ago the 6.7 Powerstroke got stomped in the Rockies by a Duramax. This is after the Ford compared quite well to the DMax at lower altitudes.

The EcoBoost has the ability to make up for thin air(somewhat) with turbocharging. It also has an inter cooler that will become heat soaked.

 

[ruffdog]

You already posted that link earlier.
Here is one from a low powered GM 5.3 liter, same story, driving down the highway:
http://chevroletforum.com/forum/sil...-silverado-5-3-threw-rod-through-block-57136/

Yeah, a post from a beginner with no pics or further info.....troll!

 

[ruffdog]

At least these ecoboost owners are trying to fix the problem on their own by drilling a drain hole in the CAC. Some have bought an after market CAC to solve it.
http://www.f150forum.com/f70/ecoboost-condensate-drain-hole-post-your-results-here-223824/

 

[bironacad]

When doing a comparison of pulling power, axle ratios' need to be the same or darn close.

I would agree, the old apples to apples. Figures don't lie but fibres can figure. Anyway my 5.9 CTD 03 2500 with 9000 lbs .

 

[crazyal]

Why not? Just look at the zero to 60 times pulling a load and the distance needed to do so shows a lot.

Chris

How is how well a truck can tow at altitudes above 10,000 feet relevant to most people? It's about as relevant as the 0 to 60 tests where some trucks spin the wheels and the traction control kicks in. Or revving up the motors before starting the test. All they proved is what should have been known to most any auto enthusiast, at high altitudes a normally aspirated engine will struggle to get air. About all I learned was that the Tundra smoked the Ford when it came to braking in their test.

 

[crazyal]

I would agree, the old apples to apples. Figures don't lie but fibres can figure. Anyway my 5.9 CTD 03 2500 with 9000 lbs .

When it comes to 0 to 60 times it's the total ratio of both first gear, the rear R&P gears, and the circumference of the tires. Even the tire compound plays a role.

 

[slowzuki]

Exactly. Total drive ratio is far more important that the actual ratio. You can get your total ratio from deep gears in the transmission or in the axle or by putting small tires on. People forget the large diameter tires that come on the trucks now vs 30 years ago, and the huge change in first gear ratios in the last 30 years.

When it comes to 0 to 60 times it's the total ratio of both first gear, the rear R&P gears, and the circumference of the tires. Even the tire compound plays a role.

 

[jejeosborne]

Yeah, a post from a beginner with no pics or further info.....troll!

You drew first blood Rambo by calling the ecoboost "egoboost" and now more name calling! You need pictures? How old are you?

You really think with 3:73 gears the Chevy will come out on top? In this test the rpms were already in the engines sweet spot. All a lower rear end will do is make it upshift a gear and fall on its face.

It appears that you are a die hard Chevy boy/man that hates it when their current model cannot out perform a 3 year old model.

 

[jejeosborne]

How is how well a truck can tow at altitudes above 10,000 feet relevant to most people? It's about as relevant as the 0 to 60 tests where some trucks spin the wheels and the traction control kicks in. Or revving up the motors before starting the test. All they proved is what should have been known to most any auto enthusiast, at high altitudes a normally aspirated engine will struggle to get air. About all I learned was that the Tundra smoked the Ford when it came to braking in their test.

Again none of this is very scientific.
As far as the brakes are concerned, the tundra doesn't offer an integrated brake controller in 2013 which is a huge fail. They had 3 different drivers and they didn't have the gain properly set on the ford as they acknowledged. A trailer that heavy should've had the gain set at 10, the maximum.

 

[jejeosborne]

Duplicate delete

 

[ruffdog]

Diehard? LOL funny! I had 2 new Fords and a Chrysler for the wife before my current truck. Yeah, I need pictures 'cus my eyes 'aint what they use to be! diehard...LOL