chopped
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I found this interesting..
Tongue and Groove Tree Felling Technique - YouTube
Tongue and Groove Tree Felling Technique - YouTube
Interesting tree felling method
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kco
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Interesting. I was not aware of that method. I will keep it in mind and give it a try. Most of my firewood trees are the size of the one in the video or smaller.
gwdixon
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That method might be interesting but looks dangerous to me.
Unless the tree is just the right diameter the plunge cut to insert the wedge is going to weaken the tree enough that it MAY fall toward the "bird's mouth". The hinge is considerably weakened with that plunge cut.
It may be goodbye saw or goodbye you.
I'm not a safety police guy by any means but once that bird's mouth goes in you won't catch me on that side of the tree under any circumstances.
Unless the tree is just the right diameter the plunge cut to insert the wedge is going to weaken the tree enough that it MAY fall toward the "bird's mouth". The hinge is considerably weakened with that plunge cut.
It may be goodbye saw or goodbye you.
I'm not a safety police guy by any means but once that bird's mouth goes in you won't catch me on that side of the tree under any circumstances.
jdjdjd
Silver Member
Anyone notice that it was a Palm Tree. Not a real tree.
rekees4300
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dmccarty
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I agree. I don't see the point in the technique. Standing in front of the tree after the notch is cut is not something I do. The only "advantage" I see to this technique is that pounding of the wedge can be a slow process so one could see how the tree is gong to fall. Course you can do the very same thing with a conventional technique with a wedge or by slowly cutting the back cut.
The other risk with the technique is the plunge cut. Plunge cuts are sort risky in the first place and cutting with the top of the bar pulls the saw towards the top of the saw which would usually be to the left if the saw is horizontal. If one were not real careful one could over cut the notch for the wedge further weakening the hinge. This would be more likely on smaller trees that don't have much diameter in the first place.
Tis interesting but I won't use this technique.
Later,
Dan
dmccarty
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Around here we call those weeds.
Down in FLA, those "weeds" sell for quite a bit of money. :laughing::laughing::laughing:
I never did like the looks of palm trees but people pay some big money to have them transplanted. :confused3:
Later,
Dan
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Neat. Could do without the horrid noise.
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cqaigy2
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Looks like it would reduce spinning of the tree while it's falling.
grsthegreat
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it would have been way better if it landed on his truck hehe
bindian
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Down here, we cut the hinge to spin the pine tree where we want it to land. I've seen pines pivot 90 degrees and "dance" down. That might work well on palm trees, but I would not want to do it to a 22 inch pine.
hugs, Brandi
hugs, Brandi
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Larro Darro
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I wouldn't want to try the plunge cut, even on a palm. You cut a few oaks like that, and the tip of your bar will be wore out.
I do have about fifty palms growing in an old plastic swimming pool. I cut one of the big tags of seed off into the canoe one day on the river. I had the pool with some dirt in, so I tossed the seeds in and covered them up. Most all of them came up. They are just over ten years old and almost waist high. If I live long enough, I might see them get head high.
I do have about fifty palms growing in an old plastic swimming pool. I cut one of the big tags of seed off into the canoe one day on the river. I had the pool with some dirt in, so I tossed the seeds in and covered them up. Most all of them came up. They are just over ten years old and almost waist high. If I live long enough, I might see them get head high.
LD1
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Interesting.
Not something I am likely to use, but interesting no doubt.
Only time I plunge cut is with a heavy leaner. Plunge in just behind the hinge (after the notch cut) and basically make the back cut from the hinge outward instead of outside to inside. Keeps the tree from barber-chairing
Not something I am likely to use, but interesting no doubt.
Only time I plunge cut is with a heavy leaner. Plunge in just behind the hinge (after the notch cut) and basically make the back cut from the hinge outward instead of outside to inside. Keeps the tree from barber-chairing
kco
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Another situation where I use a plunge cut is where trees are too close to get the bar in to make the back cut such as birch clumps. They can have large trees that seem to share the same root system.
I share the safety concern about starting the cut but it is not that scary if done right. One needs to have the saw at full speed and start at an angle(to the 90 degree slot) letting the lower bar start a small pocket to prevent the top of the saw kicking across the surface when you deepen the slot. Keep the saw at full speed and with moderate push-pressure rotate the bar to 90 degrees. Continue with moderate push pressure and full speed so the chips don't get clogged up.
I have only plunge cut birch, poplar, pine and fir. They are likely much easier to cut than oaks, etc.
I share the safety concern about starting the cut but it is not that scary if done right. One needs to have the saw at full speed and start at an angle(to the 90 degree slot) letting the lower bar start a small pocket to prevent the top of the saw kicking across the surface when you deepen the slot. Keep the saw at full speed and with moderate push-pressure rotate the bar to 90 degrees. Continue with moderate push pressure and full speed so the chips don't get clogged up.
I have only plunge cut birch, poplar, pine and fir. They are likely much easier to cut than oaks, etc.
straight from the author of the video
"Contrary to all the Youtube experts and other morons who proliferate sites like this .... this works well with all trees, I even use it on large gum trees, frequently. Did you know that Australian eucs are the weight of USA oaks but 3 times stronger, go check the timber beam stats, eucs are 3X stronger than oaks. "
joshuabardwell
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I think he should get a real single-jack for hammering in his wedge. That carpenter's hammer just looks silly.
