iPad vs ?

[MacLawn]

One thing I strongly suggest is to get the iOS device with the most memory available, even if it seems excessive at the time. I know too many people who "saved" $100 when they bought their iPhone 5 or 5S with 32G instead of 64G because they didn't see how they could use that much memory. Now they can't install iOS updates for lack of memory, unless they delete pictures or music. Which means they have to upgrade their device sooner than expected, so the savings was false.

If you buy the most memory available, even if it seems like a stretch at the time, you will postpone obsolescence by probably a year or maybe more (I still get great use out of my 64G iPad2).

:thumbsup: I made that mistake with wife's iPhone 5. She's loaded the thing with so many apps... We get more memory one next time. She can work around it, but more memory is better. Pay now or pay later as they say in Tangyangyika.

 

[xtn]

Problems with IOS 8 on iPhone 4s, and how to roll back to IOS 7:

iOS 8 Downgrade to iOS 7.1.2 for iPhone 4S and iPad 2 possible for now | BGR

Also you can google up lots of articles detailing how to improve specific problems if you don't want to roll back.

xtn

 

[Fordman1981]

If you're already using iPhone, get an iPad. It's just like the iPhone except you can't make a phone call. Learning curve =0

Actually with iOS 8 your iPad or Mac can use your iPhone to make phone calls. I use it all the time on my MacBook Pro and it works very well.

 

[Fordman1981]

You said 8.2 but didn't mean 8.1.2 correct? I have that update waiting for a week now that I haven't done yet.

No iOS 8.2 will be released in early 2015. I'm running iOS 8.2 beta 2 now. 8.1.2 was a very minor update did nothing to help the iPhone 4s and the iPad 2.

 

[M E Race]

Wife said something the other day about an iPad. Was just wanting opinions on it or others. We have iPhones. 4s with iOS 8.0x. Didn't have any problems until the new iOS came out. Now we are starting to have some issues. It may be the age of our phones. As they aren't as big as the new phones. Any help or suggestions.

If you alredy have I-Phone you don't need to pay for Wi-Fi when you leave home. Simply turn on the mobil hot spot on your I-Phone and you have Wi-Fi anywhere you have cell service.

 

[farmer2009]

If you alredy have I-Phone you don't need to pay for Wi-Fi when you leave home. Simply turn on the mobil hot spot on your I-Phone and you have Wi-Fi anywhere you have cell service.

How do I do that? Tried it last month while DSL was on the rocks. And phone said to contact service provider.

 

[Fordman1981]

How do I do that? Tried it last month while DSL was on the rocks. And phone said to contact service provider.

Some providers charge extra to tether some don't. I would guess your provider does being your phone told you to contact your provider.

 

[Country Geek]

If you alredy have I-Phone you don't need to pay for Wi-Fi when you leave home. Simply turn on the mobil hot spot on your I-Phone and you have Wi-Fi anywhere you have cell service.

Yeah but be very careful with that.

Most software assumes that wifi means unlimited data. It doesn't know the wifi is being backed by your cellular connection. So for example a Windows laptop could download a Windows update in the background while tethered to your cell phone's wifi. Or a cloud service like Dropbox might do some background synching. If you have an iPad with iCloud synch active on that wifi, it might synch your pictures and data (iCloud is designed to only synch when on wifi).

These things are pretty invisible to the user as they are happening, but can eat up your cellular data plan in a BIG hurry.

 

[M E Race]

My bad, forgot to mention that you need to turn off auto synch and auto downloads. If you have one of the old ATT unlimited data plans on your I-Phone then just go for it. My wife has both I-Pad and Kindle, neither of which is cell capable. She has used them all over the country when no Wi-Fi was handy. We share a 10 gig monthly plan and have never gone over.

It's not meant to replace your home Wi-Fi, but when your in the shop at the farm with no Wi-Fi it sure beats squinting to see that parts diagram on your phone.

 

[SirReal63]

Toni and I both have iPads, for me it is a love/hate relationship. All three are cell capable but we never got a plan for them. I have a Droid Razr and can broadcast my WiFi to the iPads and with my unlimited data plan it is no big issue. My biggest complaint with Apple is we have a first gen 64 gig iPad and they stopped offering updates when it was less than 2 years old. It currently is little more than a glorified Kindle that cost big bucks when it was new.

 

[Toddao]

The PC has been siting in a cabinet for over 2 years, Ipad is the way to go.

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[Winmac]

If your set on Apple don't rule out the mini, personally I think it's a better size.

 

[Soundguy]

Kinda depends on what you want to use it for. If it's for surfing the web an $80 Walmart Android Tablet will do just fine. We bought one, I think its a 10" RCA and it surfs the web just fine. It is however WIFI only, doesn't work on the Cellular networks. But then again, you don't need a wireless plan for it either. This is the one we bought, it was $79 at the store after Black Friday, I think it was Saturday after when we bought it.

RCA 10.1" Tablet 16GB Quad Core Bonus Keyboard/Case - Walmart.com

Wow, good deal, even better than this next book 8 android tab work got us, dual core 8mb, etc.

 

[s219]

If you are an iOS dev like I am you should know that iOS 8.2 is going to address the issues with iPad 2 and iPhone 4s. Along with patching most of the bugs. I do think that maybe apple should have blocked the 4s and iPad 2 from updates until they got the iOS working properly on them but iOS 8 has too many features to just pass up if you can use it.

That would be great if it does. Just saw 8.2b3 in the Dev Center today, but not planning to run any of the 8.2 betas since I am in the middle of a client project.

I think most of the issues in 8.0-8.1.x have been quality control. Not nearly as good as it used to be.

 

[farmer2009]

Well it seems that it's a 95%+ iPad vote. I have the iPhone but am not a diehard guy. Thanks for the pointers on the wifi and cellular data. I am on AT&T. Only reliable carrier in the area

Ok next questions. What can I do on an iPad? Is it only good for surfing the internet or can it be used for more? Would I be as well off getting another laptop?

 

[KubotainNH]

I've wondered about this too but aside from the high price of the iPad I don't know if I would want another Apple product. We have various levels of Ipod touch's in my house. My wife's is a 4 and she can still get apps and upgrades but she's had so much trouble with apps crashing that she has started deleting them and just using our laptop again. Maybe it's the app manufacturers issue, I dunno. But mine is the version before and I can't load squat on it anymore. I was thinking it's getting too small anyway for my old-ish eyes but there's no way to do any upgrades on one of these things except for buying new. I've been pondering trying an inexpensive Windows based tablet like the HP Stream for around $100. You can add a microSD card and could actually print normally to a regular printer. No silly proprietary jacks on it. Being a tech guy I like to be able to mess with the o/s. Also thought about Android but not sure how those are with editing documents and printing them.

 

[sseelhoff]

Lollipop? Thought it was kitkat? Shows what I know, I'm new to droid, I just got a next book 8 tablet with jelkybean wondering if it can or needs to be upgraded, I'm a win is user so android is foreign to me

Jellybean is 4.2
KitKat is 4.4
Lollipop is 5.0

Very few devices are running Lollipop right now.

My tablet (Samsung Galaxy III) is Jellybean
My phone (new as of Wednesday) is an HTC and is on KitKat.

My wife has the iPad. She loves it. Obviously, I like the android environment. The nice thing for each of us is the ability to sync all of our devices. Photos I take with my tablet are almost instantly available on my phone, and vice versa.

 

[jmc]

My iPad2 with the latest OS upgrade now loads websites at the speed of my old dialup connection. Incredible. It was fine with OS7. Now, you actually have to decide if the probability of the interesting looking website is worth waiting 30 seconds or so to load, if you're lucky enough that it doesn't stall indefinitely. Just like 15 years ago. Many other quirks too. This from Apple.

Nice to hear from insiders on TBN that 8.2 will address this.

 

[Fordman1981]

My iPad2 with the latest OS upgrade now loads websites at the speed of my old dialup connection. Incredible. It was fine with OS7. Now, you actually have to decide if the probability of the interesting looking website is worth waiting 30 seconds or so to load, if you're lucky enough that it doesn't stall indefinitely. Just like 15 years ago. Many other quirks too. This from Apple. Nice to hear from insiders on TBN that 8.2 will address this.

Try going to settings > general > reset > reset network settings. Some people had wifi/ network issues during the betas and that helped.

 

[s219]

Well it seems that it's a 95%+ iPad vote. I have the iPhone but am not a diehard guy. Thanks for the pointers on the wifi and cellular data. I am on AT&T. Only reliable carrier in the area

Ok next questions. What can I do on an iPad? Is it only good for surfing the internet or can it be used for more? Would I be as well off getting another laptop?

I mainly use mine for surfing the web, and prefer a MacBook Air for portable "work". But I know other people who do everything on their iPad, including creating/editing documents, spreadsheets, graphics, etc. There is actually quite a bit of custom software for business use too.

I think the real question is what do you want to do on an iPad? And then look for apps to enable that.