Iron Worker Punch Press

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Price out some new ones and also check used machinery dealers or for used ironworkers on the internet. There's actually a lot of them out there. Some have more tooling available like brakes and different blades for round and square bar etc.
 
   / Iron Worker Punch Press #12  
That's a pretty rough Edwards. Not sure if it would interest me for that price. I've had my Edwards for four years now and just love the thing. Bought mine new.
Having the iron worker is the easy part, getting the different punches and accessories is another costly part of owning one. I have the optional 12" brake as well as about 40 different punches. The machine isn't much good without the added accessories. I make up different jigs for actuate repetitive punching. Works well for me.
I'd take the advise of the others and look around.



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   / Iron Worker Punch Press #13  
A guy I worked with at the Tool and Machine shop lost two fingers on a mechanical press when it cycled at the wrong time...

No stopping it once the cam is tripped.

It's the same machine I would spend days at a time on and count myself lucky.
 
   / Iron Worker Punch Press #14  
One of my buds saw my small punch press, grimaced, and said, "my momma told me she would allow me to go into the Marines before she would let me work a punch press."
 
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The punch press is really the main feature I need. I'm tired of drilling holes. As far as the other iron worker features I already have a custom hydraulic tubing notcher, 20 ton press brake, roper whitney angle notcher and an ellis bandsaw which do the job fine. Turns out my buddy knows the guy with that iron worker for sale. I'd like to get it for $4500 but if not then I might look for a cheap mechanical punch press although most of them are 3 phase which is going to be an added expense and headache to setup in my shop.
 
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In researching the edwards I've come across mixed reviews where a few people mention that the hydraulic pump is very loud and resonates at the right (deafening) frequency to be annoying. Do you find the noise to be annoying for extended use? Is it louder than a lawn mower?

I have a northern tool log splitter pump powering my custom made hydraulic tubing bender. I always wear ear plugs when I use it but have been told a time or two that it is very loud and annoying. I imagine the edwards might be similar.
 
   / Iron Worker Punch Press #18  
In researching the edwards I've come across mixed reviews where a few people mention that the hydraulic pump is very loud and resonates at the right (deafening) frequency to be annoying. Do you find the noise to be annoying for extended use? Is it louder than a lawn mower?

I have a northern tool log splitter pump powering my custom made hydraulic tubing bender. I always wear ear plugs when I use it but have been told a time or two that it is very loud and annoying. I imagine the edwards might be similar.

Not sure if your directing the question towards me but seeing I own an Edwards I give you my opinion on it. The Edwards has the electric over hydraulic pump. I only have mine turned on while I'm using it. Like all hydraulic pumps it has that usual whining noise. When I was researching ironworkers I read that the Edwards were noisy and I found out that the older models before mine were reported to be that way, fortunately mine isn't and although I do hear it, I really don't notice it. My radio is louder than the ironworker.

I noticed that Edwards restyled all there ironworkers. The lifting legs look smaller and so do the full unit but if it's anything like the 60 ton unit I have then it will be the best tool you'll put in your shop

That first Edwards you showed for sale looked like its been through two wars. I wouldn't even consider something like that for that kind of money. The base of it looked like its been through a rough time.
If I were needing another ironworker today I'd pick up the phone and buy another Edwards that's how much I like this unit. It's built in America too. That's getting hard to say these days.
 
   / Iron Worker Punch Press #19  
The Edwards really doesn't look too bad to me. The guys across the street have a 100 or so ton Edwards that looks far worse, but it's mostly just dirt and such from lack of use in the last few years (blame the economy). They seem to like it just fine. Looks like he might have several punch sets and some optional attachments to go with it. As Paul noted, those add up fast. I just bought a 1/2" square punch and die set. It cost about $120. I don't know the new price of the Edwards, so I don't really have a feel for the price. I noticed that it uses single phase power. That usually costs extra. Most iron workers are designed for constant use, so a small shop would probably never wear out the mechanicals.

I've used the Scotchman and Uni Hydro. We have a Piranha P-50 that I really like. It's faster than most other brands as it has a 10 hp motor instead of the 5 hp that most have. I really like the urethane hold downs and strippers. They save lots of time since they don't need much if any adjustment for different materials. It's also nice that the work height of all the stations except the angle shear, are the same height. That lets you use the same feed table or support for shearing. punching, notching, etc. The built in coper/notcher is really handy. I don't believe it's available in single phase though. Used ones show up at reasonable prices occasionally. If you don't have 3 phase power you'd need a 20 hp rotary converter to run it. I confess, ours looks pretty bad too. It's in great mechanical shape, but we have cutting, welding and grinding dust in that area of the shop. Seems like it attracts it all.


Paul keeps his machine immaculately clean. Don't expect to find a used machine that looks like that.


You should check shear knives and such. Replacements are in the $300-$500 range. Some blades have multiple edges and can be turned 4 times.
 
   / Iron Worker Punch Press #20  
Do you own the shop? And have you figured in the cost of preparing a suitable foundation for the machine? Something that size will destroy the concrete floor in no time at all.

I would closely at installation manuals closely. A friend of mine has an old 50 ton mechanical and he says the foundation for it is something like six feet times six feet with good concrete and a ton or iron.

This for the mechanical punch presses and iron workers.
 

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