Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?)

[art]

To have a single axle six by fourteen works very well with the BX TLB package. It gives plenty of room to also carry the tractor loader and a tiller.

These trailers are normally right at 2900 or 3000 lbs and work quite well with a half ton size pick-up or suv.

In our area people are moving them in the ten to fifty mile range and not having any trouble.

 

[TheKid]

A car hauler will weigh more because it has 5" channel usually. Mine has a full 4" channel, tongue jack, 2x12 decking, and plenty of steel. I feel comfortable hauling anything on it under 5,750#.


Jerry James Tandems

Mine is identical to the second one down minus the gate.

Chris

My 16' car hauler is also from Jerry James, and is like the top picture, without the dovetail. It has 5"channel frame, with a 4" channel tongue. According to the registration paper work sent to the state it's GVWR is 7000# and it weighs 1200#, so I can legally haul 5800#.

 

[radioman]

1*I go along with this but 2*I can't believe an S10 is enough truck.

Why not you think the S-10 is not enough ? Where do you base your opinion from ? personal experience ? wieght match rating ?! I think not. I grew up with trailering with my father, on road and off. I eventually got my own. started small then went up in size. I even got a 22' full size camper. The camper is rated for 5000lbs max with 7k axles and tires. THIS is more more stress on the s-10 then my 16 ft trailer with BX in it due to wind issues. All I am saying, I do NOT have the optimum towing package, but it works SAFELY. I added WD and sway bars. upgraded tires on blazer to handle more wieght (its only 100 more for each tire) for a tiny bit of swaying feel control. I religiously check the lbs brakes on the trailers. I would never go with surge on a small truck due to you MUST use the tow vehicle to START the braking and cascade effect to the trailer. NO thanks. TOO much stress on little vehicle. Its all about experience and stated capabilites on equipment and using common sense. Keep the attitude of trying to be a super trucker on the road in check. No need to brag, it can lead to unsafe trailering. Be safe! Its our number one goal here.

LBrown- one thing I fail to understand about you and I am hoping you can clarify this for us. WHY in the world do you need a trailer when you keep telling other TBN'ers about the insurance issues when using BX on trailer and off your land and on others ? You also mentioned in the past about towing other people tractors and if it covered or not ? I am sorry, I don't get it. Are you a whistle blower with insurance or what ? Do YOU really need a truck and trailer for your BX's ? What are you planning on doing with it? Just because ? I really don't know with the type of posts you have made in the past. IMHO , I think you have me confused to a point of what your intentions are. Care to help me out to understand you better ?

 

[robertm]

To have a single axle six by fourteen works very well with the BX TLB package. It gives plenty of room to also carry the tractor loader and a tiller.

These trailers are normally right at 2900 or 3000 lbs and work quite well with a half ton size pick-up or suv.

In our area people are moving them in the ten to fifty mile range and not having any trouble.

I just picked up my BX2660 with FEL and MMM Saturday on my 77"X 14'-0" single brake axle trailer. It towed just fine, although I BACKED on to get the tongue weight up on the truck (F-350). Now, when I loaded my B7510 with FEL and MMM, it squatted enough that I took it off and loaded it backwards, too. I had the ballast block on there two, initially, but after calculating I was probably 500# overweight for the lousy 30 mile ride, I chickened out. I'm taking the ballast I traded off in a separate trip this Saturday.

My trailer is a Load Trail, and although a landscape trailer, it is built on the car hauler framework. I'm sure the 2,995# gross rating is way underweight, but I'm sure the springs and axle can't carry close to what the trailer farme could carry. For the few times I haul my tractor a year, I'm fine. Next time around, it will be a dual axle. I didn't want a dual axle before because you need a machine to move them around, where I can still pick-up my single axle tongue and move it by hand. I will say, though, had I known this trailer would come so heavy anyway, I'd have gone dual axle. If you are just and average man, you'd never pick up the tongue on this Load Trail and move it by hand - it is extremely heavy. I ordered it with the car ramps that slide in underneath, rear corner support jacks, and sides that come off and become small ramps to load my ATV's from the side. The rear ramps (not flip up style) weigh a good 125# each, too. I have the heavy duty two-wheeled tongue cart from Harbor Freight, and have basically torched it from moving the trailer... empty. Time for a welder.

 

[TheKid]

I saw a truck and trailer rig at a rest stop this past weekend that I'm sure everyone would agree was large enough to haul a BX, or any other tractor that's ever been made.

It can carry 430,000 lbs and a load 22' wide. More information here if anyone is interested.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I saw a truck and trailer rig at a rest stop this past weekend that I'm sure everyone would agree was large enough to haul a BX, or any other tractor that's ever been made.

It can carry 430,000 lbs and a load 22' wide. More information here if anyone is interested.

That is just what LB is looking for!!!

Chris

 

[newbury]

I saw a truck and trailer rig at a rest stop this past weekend that I'm sure everyone would agree was large enough to haul a BX, or any other tractor that's ever been made.

It can carry 430,000 lbs and a load 22' wide. More information here if anyone is interested.

Would I need a CDL for that if I was just towing my ATV?

 

[KeithInSpace]

Holy friggen' cow! To think, there is one guy at the front of that drinking a coffee and eating a doughnut.

Hope he's not on the cell phone also.

 

[jwstewar]

I saw a truck and trailer rig at a rest stop this past weekend that I'm sure everyone would agree was large enough to haul a BX, or any other tractor that's ever been made.

It can carry 430,000 lbs and a load 22' wide. More information here if anyone is interested.

On my way home from work 2 or 3 weeks ago, I saw a truck just like that one sitting overnight at the weight station. The load even looked to be the same. Wonder if they are transporting something across country and it took that long to make it from Ohio to Missouring?

 

[sandman2234]

I saw a truck and trailer rig at a rest stop this past weekend that I'm sure everyone would agree was large enough to haul a BX, or any other tractor that's ever been made.

It can carry 430,000 lbs and a load 22' wide. More information here if anyone is interested.

I looked for one of those at the local retail centers to haul my Ford 1100 but they are hard to find. Must be a mid-western thing!!! I even went ahead and got my CDL so I would be ready to go across town to my other lot when it needs mowing once or twice a month. I especially liked the idea of having eight tires on one axle in case I blew a tire hauling my 1200 pound load.

Each of us has a different set of circumstances, equipment, cargo, EXPERIENCE, and budgetary allowances. I prefer to hear the replies to this thread that come from people that have (or have had) experience doing something along the lines of what the original poster is asking about. Stretching your fingers and sticking in things that you "THINK" are the best idea for the o/p is just a waste of bandwidth and a reason for others to point out the flaws (from their point of view). Not wanting to pick on LB, but just to use his post about the one ton truck and 14k trailer (that he corrected in a later post) would be a good example of another way to go, but probably not the way 99% of us would go, and in reality, probably not something that he has actually tried, though I don't know this for certain. Basically what I am saying, is guys, seriously consider what your saying before saying it.
Another poster mentioned that all dual axle trailers have at least one axle brakes. Not true, as I have a trailer out back made by what was a reputable trailer manufacturer, that was originally spec'd and built with NO BRAKES on either axle. I purchased it used, and it works good for what I use it for, and I have considered adding heavier axles and brakes, but it hasn't become a priority, since it is too small to haul my JD2555 on. All I am trying to say is, think about what your going to say and how people are going to take it. It is hard to read into print the sarcasim (except maybe my post about the 430,000 pound machine to haul my Ford 1100) so try to put yourself in the O/P shoes and try to figure out what he wants to use it for, where he is located (hills, snow, dirt roads, interstates, rural driving, city traffic, etc)
Rant off,
David from jax