Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?)

   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #51  
I plan on hauling a B2320 with 60" MMM on a 77" x 12' single axle (3500lb) trailer. The B2320 weighs about 1500lb and the 60" MMM weighs about 350lb. The title on the trailer says it weighs 800lb although the vendor (Appalachian Trailers) says its more like 900 lb. I had them reinforce the trailer gate. No brakes on the axle. Hauling with a 2004 Dodge Dakota SXT with 3,500lb towing capacity. At 1500lb + 350lb = 1850lb I'm well under the 2500lb load capacity rating on the trailer. And, at 1850lb + 900lb = 2750lb i'm under the 3500lb tow capacity of my vehicle. I'll just have to hold myself back when i want to haul the FEL too.:mad:

I plan on carrying a jack and spare tire in the truck

Comments, thrashings are welcomed.
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #52  
I plan on hauling a B2320 with 60" MMM on a 77" x 12' single axle (3500lb) trailer. The B2320 weighs about 1500lb and the 60" MMM weighs about 350lb. The title on the trailer says it weighs 800lb although the vendor (Appalachian Trailers) says its more like 900 lb. I had them reinforce the trailer gate. No brakes on the axle. Hauling with a 2004 Dodge Dakota SXT with 3,500lb towing capacity. At 1500lb + 350lb = 1850lb I'm well under the 2500lb load capacity rating on the trailer. And, at 1850lb + 900lb = 2750lb i'm under the 3500lb tow capacity of my vehicle. I'll just have to hold myself back when i want to haul the FEL too.:mad:

I plan on carrying a jack and spare tire in the truck

Comments, thrashings are welcomed.

I don't now where you are, but a few things I would question are: In my past trailer purchases I found most suppliers rate their single axle trailers below 3,000# for licensing/resgistration issues, so I'd not be suprised if your trailer gross is something like 2,995#. Here in Illinois, trailers over 3,000 (maybe 3,500) need to have brakes, if I recall correctly. If your trailer is in fact a 2,995 gross unit, the 3,500# axle means nothing to the highway patrol.

That said, I hauled my B7510, MMM, and FEL with my single axle 77X14 trailer with no issues, but mine is a car hauler frame of c-channel with a single brake axle. I'm sure I've given up some carraying capacity just because of the weight of the trailer itself. I doubt you'l have any issues with your trailer with the load you've described, but I think you are closer to 250# of the gross. I also see the Appalachian frame is 1-1/2" or 2" angle iron, so I'd be leary to add anything in the weight department over the capacities. In any event, watch the bumps, strap everything down with good chains or tough load straps, and have fun. I hauled both my B's home with MMM and FEL without issue, but the BX seems to be weighted differently. I'd suggest possibly backing your tractor on the trailer to get more weight on the hitch and less on the trailer axle if you can take it just for safe measure, but I'm betting the Dakota isn't going to be too forgiving with 800# sitting on the hitch.
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #53  
Yes you are correct on the GVWR of the trailer. They state that the GVWR of the trailer is 2990lb. I believe they do this solely because of the 3000lb weight limit for trailer brakes. However, they rate the trailer load capacity at 2500lb. So i suppose in the eyes of the highway patrol yes i would be within 250lb of the limit, but still under

I do have a class III hitch on the back of the Dakota. However I believe the maximum load capacity is either 500 or 600lb. It will be interesting to see what kind of gymnastics i have to do to get the load balanced.

I haven't bought the B2320 yet but for those people in my shoes i don't know how i would buy a $15K tractor with implements along with a $1500 to $2000 dual axle trailer and probably a $10k to $20k truck (depending on whether it was new or used). I just don't have that much money. I'm living within my means and using the equipment at just under they're rated capacities (or legal limits). I plan on carrying insurance just in case.
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #54  
I wish I had my head on straight when I custom ordered my HD single axle trailer. Looking back, I should have got a double axle. I may just see about selling mine and doing the deed. With the kids and their quads, it's only a matter of time.
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #55  
You will be just fine with the trailer and Dakota. Just keep the speed down and leave plenty of room for stopping between you and the one you are following.

You biggest problem will be balancing the load as you stated with a trailer that short.

Chris
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #56  
Greetings TBN community! Well, my wife and I just closed on 3.3 acres today to build a house on, so if the budget holds, we'll get a Kubota BX for snow removal, mowing and gardening. Since I have an SUV with a 5000lb tow capacity for the forseeable future, I want to get a trailer to substitute for a pickup bed and be large enough to move the tractor when necessary.
So, is a single axle 6x12 3500lb capacity enough or do I need to look for larger? How wide for a 54 or 60 inch mowing deck to fit? I mainly want to use it in place of a truck for moving larger items and have the ability to move our upcoming mower/tractor when needed. With gas prices and family needs, I do not see having a vehicle larger than a midsize again (with 5000-6500 pound tow limits).

Thanks for all the info in this forum so far and I look forward to your advice.

Russ

Boy, the ideas that are out there:eek::D A tandem axle, car hauler stile 7000lb. trailer 16 to 18 feet long, brakes on one axle will be fine. Unless you decide to haul your Sherman tank, which some feel a bx weighs the close to the same, you might need what some are recommending. A trailer in that class and the heaviest BX Kubota builds will probably fall under 5000lbs total, even with mower and loader. I will second what diamodpilot and lonecowboy said.
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #57  
I do have a class III hitch on the back of the Dakota. However I believe the maximum load capacity is either 500 or 600lb. It will be interesting to see what kind of gymnastics i have to do to get the load balanced. .

that's the problem with single axle trailers.. especially short ones where you don't have much leeway to move the load fore or aft to make sure tounge weight is correct AND the load is ballanced.

soundguy
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #58  
I'd rather have too much truck/trailer and not need it than not enough and need it.

I certainly wouldn't pull it with a single axle and a midsize SUV.
 
   / Is 3500 enough? (or how much trailer for a BX?) #59  
... ??? ...

A 3,500# capacity trailer has about 2,700# of load capacity. That is due to the trailer weighing about 800# itself.

If I were you I would get a 16' tandem 7,000# trailer. 2 reasons. First you will have more trailer for the future and second and more important for the time being you will have a longer deck which will allow you to position the tractor or load on the trailer to balance the load and keep it off your light SUV.

They are not much more, maybe a few hundred dollars, and much more desirable when and if it comes time to sell it.

Another factor is accessories you may want to haul with the tractor such as box blade, front end loader, and a back hoe.

Chris
 

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