Is a 110, L39, or L48 enough tractor?

[mike69440]

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( mike69440, Thanks for the imput

Ya I know what you mean about compairing these smaller units to the big stuff. I put 100 hours or so on a OLD JD410 hoe at one of our remote fire stations in the deep woods. It is only 2wd also but man can that thing push, dig, tear, pop limbs of huge trees, etc...it also weighs a BUNCH, but obviously weight and power go hand and hand.

Glad to here you are able to accomplish alot of work with the L39. Did you try the L48 and 110 when you were shopping around?

I looked at the JD-110 more serious than the L48. I should have looked harder at the L48.

What made you go with the L39?

I actually had a Kioti LK3054TLB on order and canceled the order when we bought the 17 acre. (I was figuring we were keeping the old 5 acre place, but this land popped up).

I can see how when you start pushing big piles uphill you can start starving for horsepower quickly. Funny how no matter what we have we always want more huh? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yes, IR makes this, not much bigger than a L48, but a bunch more power. About $50 K. The smaller 370 goes about $30-35 k for a low hour used machine. The IR loaders are real beasts. They match a full size machine! The IR BH are stronger than the Bota's & Deere also, but not like the difference in the loaders.

If the IR only had a 3 point Hitch!

http://www.irutilityequipment.irco.com/files/documents/bl%20570.pdf


WOW those are some HEAVY rocks you are dislodging! I love the fact that you can remove the use the 3pt. And wow all those implements to drain the bank account!!

I have a box scraper and a harrow rake, and on order a Borgford grapple. I need a brush hog.

I am banking on your thinking as far as the work they can do will help pay themselves off (hehe keep the justification comming!!). /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks a bunch for your time, Tom )</font>

 

[hutch4472]

WOW that IR is an increadible looking machine. I think I would look very closely at buying one BUT the weight (would put me WAY overloaded on a non Class A CDL), price to some extent (although not far off from the 110) , and mainly lack of 3pt make me look elsewhere. Those are some inpressive specs too (especially if they are all fact and no fiction, which IR's may be). Thanks, Tom

 

[DavesTractor]

Bite the bullet and get the class A. Opens up a lot of possibilities and it isn't that big of a deal. California is fussy about it, as explained to me by an officer once before I got my class A. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I sent you a private message about a IR470 I know about that is for sale.

 

[hutch4472]

DavesTractor, Thanks for the reply and the PM. I sure would be interested in that IR (they make great stuff) but a 3pt is something I've convinced myself I need (maybe I'm wrong, crazier things have happened /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif).

Can you elaberate any on the upgrade to a Class A? The book is alittle confusing, maybe I should just call DMV but sometimes thats even more confusing. I have a Class B CDL with tank and air endorsments. Did you do an upgrade from B or C? Is it a drive and written test? Do you have to find someone to let you borrow a Class A vehicle? Or just written test? Sorry for all the ?'s Also please keep me in mind if you see any TLB with the 3pt for a fair price in you area. Thanks a bunch, Tom

 

[tlbuser]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I sure would be interested in that IR (they make great stuff) but a 3pt is something I've convinced myself I need (maybe I'm wrong, crazier things have happened /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif).
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Search the archives for Mchalkey and/or EF-5 (same as the IR/bobcat). He originally felt the same way and decided maybe he wasn't thinking right.

Otherwise, the new Yanmar CBL40 is in the same class as the JD110 but has some nicer features. Yanmar Have to click on Yanmar (left column) then CBL40 is on right side of page. Sorry, no shortcut on their site.

 

[Builder]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( DavesTractor, Thanks for the reply and the PM. I sure would be interested in that IR (they make great stuff) but a 3pt is something I've convinced myself I need (maybe I'm wrong, crazier things have happened /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif).

Can you elaberate any on the upgrade to a Class A? The book is alittle confusing, maybe I should just call DMV but sometimes thats even more confusing. I have a Class B CDL with tank and air endorsments. Did you do an upgrade from B or C? Is it a drive and written test? Do you have to find someone to let you borrow a Class A vehicle? Or just written test? Sorry for all the ?'s Also please keep me in mind if you see any TLB with the 3pt for a fair price in you area. Thanks a bunch, Tom )</font>

If you don't mind me answering your questions, I can help. When you have a class B and you want to go to a class A, unfortunately, it's like starting over again. What you do is go to your DMV and take the written test. I thought it was so easy, just common sense. After you pass your test, you can get your learner's permit (good for 12 months). This will allow you to drive in the presence of a driver holding a class A license. You practice driving until you are trained well enough to take your driving test.

Depending on the school, some may frown upon you showing up to get a class A license with a 1 ton and a trailer just over 10K lbs. Mine did. I have a big air-braked dump truck and a 9 ton trailer, so I had no problems.

The point of view they're coming from is "if we let this guy take his class A test in a pickup and a 14K trailer and he passes the test, we're giving him a license to drive a 18 wheeler with a 40' airbraked trailer".

You'll probably need to borrow something over 26,000 GVWR with air brakes (so you can get your airbrake endorsement) and also satisfy the DMV that you can handle a bigger truck. You'll also need to borrow something like a 10ton tag-along, etc. to get your class A.

I'm sure there's other ways, but i thought I might share some thoughts on getting your class A. It's quite an undertaking if you don't have any connectiions for a bigger truck & trailer to practice with and take the test with.

I thought the test itself was pretty tough. backing through the serpentine wasn't too bad, but using good habits like 2 hands on the wheel, not shifting through intersections, etc. I got dinged for.

Still passed my test with over a 90%.

 

[DavesTractor]

Good response. I took my test with a Dodge 1 ton and my triple axle gooseneck. If I need a class A to pull it then they better let me take the test with it. I didn't have any problems with this set-up, but I could not get the air brake endorsement of course. In one sense, if you go to all this work, it would be nice to get the air brake part of it, because now there really isn't much I can drive with my Class A. My needs are strictly the big gooseneck though, so it works for me.

 

[Builder]

Back when i took my test, I asked if I could do what you did. Instructor paused for a minute and said "I'll go a lot easier on ya if ya take the test in an airbraked truck with a big trailer. If yer just gonna try to squeak by in somethin small It's gonna be tough to pass ya".

I know he's incorrect to the letter of the law, but i kind of sympathized with what he meant. What the schools are trying to avoid is handing out class A's to everyone with a 1 ton and a gooseneck.

What if they decide to buy a big hydraulic braked dump truck with a 30' electric braked trailer? You know they probably can't handle it. Good thing the air endorsement is there to keep them from being able to drive a really big truck, too.

I mean this as no slight to you. You are not doing anything "illegal" and you sound like you have no intention of driving anything other than your truck or a similar size truck anyway.

 

[mike69440]

The Loader on this machine outclasses the Kubota L39 by 34%!
Yuk! What does it cost?

Yanmar’s model CBL40 Compact Backhoe Loader is powered by a 3 cylinder Tier II compliant 37.2 hp TURBO diesel. The backhoe digging depth is 10 feet with a backhoe reach of 13 feet two inches. The loader lift height with bucket dumped is seven feet three inches.

Yanmar designed the CBL40 with a heavy-duty durable frame like the larger machines and the CBL40 is built from the ground up for the professional customer seeking high performance in a compact, easy to transport unit. The main components (backhoe boom, arm and loader arm) are heavily reinforced for reliable operation. A hydro mechanical (HMT) transmission provides optimum efficient use of engine power. Importantly, the hydraulic system is the same used in Yanmar excavators thus providing a new system for backhoe operation. This gives the Yanmar CBL40 Backhoe Loader exceptionally smooth, precise and speedy control. Backhoe digging force is 5,800 pounds at the bucket and 3,600 pounds at the arm. A two pump system eliminates jerky backhoe motions for smooth simultaneous movements. A SSL quick style coupler like that found on Skid Steer Loaders speeds attachment changes.

The loader lifting capacity is 2,960 pounds with a breakout force of 4,375 pounds. The loader bucket is self levelling which makes it ideal for forklift operations and it too is equipped with a standard Quick Coupler.

Also Check out
http://www.coyoteloaders.com/ArtBackhoeLoaders.html
C14-4LB & C16LB Coyote

 

[tlbuser]

Plus, it has a swivel seat instead of a flop-over or fold-down type.