Is anything made in the U.S.A.

[patrick_g]

I was the last appointed Cessna dealer back in the '90's before they stopped producing.

Golly I miss boring holes in the sky,

I read a few months ago that Cessna was considering putting out an updated C-152. Sleeker, stock wheel pants, a skylight for overhead visibility and such. It was all new re-thought details for lighter weight and better performance. It was aimed at the flight school/sport pilot market. They had flying prototypes and had them on display. They were trying to see if they could get the price to that SPECIAL level where sales might be adequate. That MAGIC figure they were trying to hit was $100,000.00........

The concern was that they couldn't meet the price to make it a viable venture.

I don't even maintain a current physical. Toooooo much $$$$ for me to be able to bore holes in the sky like I used to do. Liability, lawyers, idiot juries have ruined it for many of us. If I could buy an air worthy 2 place kite for $50K I'd be flying instead of typing.

Pat

 

[wolc123]

Hey Patric, That would be a 2006 model 4120 JD (43 hp). This is the smallest JD tractor made in Georga with the JD powertech engine. Below 40 hp, you a right, the tractors are powered by the Japanese Yanmar and I would not consider those an American tractor even if they are painted green. At 40 hp you are close, but just below the point where you can get a JD with a little more North American content. I have freinds in Canada and Mexico and am not opposed to their contributions on this machine as I would be from those who brought us Pearl and Bataan.

 

[ccsial]

What is the difference between "made in mexico" and "made in usa by mexicans"?

Legal and Illegal.

 

[Builder]

I was looking around in Sear's the other day, noticed all the Craftsman impact sockets (the black ones) were made in China. It's a shame we can't manufacture tools in the USA anymore.
If we ever have another World War where are we going to get our steel from? It is turning into a matter of National Security, not just an economic catastrophe.
John

I used to think that, too. The thing is, the next "great war" won't really involve as much heavy armor like aircraft carriers & battleships like in WW II. Main reason being is because we have them all. Who else has a formidable navy anymore other than the US?
Once they're all sunk by $3,000 chinese silkworm missles bought from terrorists in Iran, we'll all come to realize that it's the USA that needs to get with the program and re-think what we spend out defense money on.
We need more human intelligence & operatives to alert us as to where the next enemy will come from, not another Aircraft carrier to add to our 50 existing ones. We need to look at advanced weaponry to destroy enemy radar and ground forces with minimal casualty to our own, satellites, lasers, etc that destroy the enemy's ability to listen to what we're doing, sophisticated unmanned aircraft to bomb the enemy from a distance.

Most importantly, we need to give incentive to American industry to invent other NEW products of the future like energy sources that eliminate the need for foreign oil, like fuel cells, solar, wind, nuke, hydrogen, etc. Cars that use less fuel, more efficient building materials and cures for diseases.

There's enough steel laying around in our junkyards to build lots more giant, outdated, vulnerable icons of past wars. Let the "Chinas" of the world force their citizenry to suffer in sweat shops & textile mills. They'll eventually revolt (just like our unions did) and probably overthrow the horrendous gov'ts they have in place now. Remember Poland in the 80's?

 

[Bradford Timber]

15% of our economy is manufacturing. 10 trillion dollar economy. 1.5 trillion in manufacturing.

Chinese GDP (the whole shebang) is about 1.5 trillion.

Nasdaq 5000 in year 1999
Dell Computer stock up thousands of percent. People buy Dell to get rich, for Dell to continue that return until 2007, every man woman and child in the US will have to buy a Dell every six months. Dell stock is flat now for seven years.

Average Chinese person eats meat once a month.
If every Chinese person where to eat meat once a week it would take the entire US corn crop to feed the chickens.

Texas manufacturing plant has union workers. Man in 1965 gets a high paying job without a high school diploma supports wife and children. 2005 same factory paying the same living wage won't hire the grandson with a GED. Can't afford to with the more advanced manufacturing going on.

Moral of the story? All this US bashing makes me want to puke. This country has never offered more opportunity than it is offering right now.

 

[cp1969]

I used to think that, too. The thing is, the next "great war" won't really involve as much heavy armor like aircraft carriers & battleships like in WW II. Main reason being is because we have them all. Who else has a formidable navy anymore other than the US?

It isn't a matter of who has what right now. What matters is who can make what by when--Germany didn't have squat in 1925 but had the ability to produce it. We had to match that effort--could we do that against the Chinese today given the fact that the industry that makes tools upon which products are made is gone? At least we had an intact machine tool industry within our borders in 1941--we don't now.

Once they're all sunk by $3,000 chinese silkworm missles bought from terrorists in Iran, we'll all come to realize that it's the USA that needs to get with the program and re-think what we spend out defense money on.
We need more human intelligence & operatives to alert us as to where the next enemy will come from, not another Aircraft carrier to add to our 50 existing ones. We need to look at advanced weaponry to destroy enemy radar and ground forces with minimal casualty to our own, satellites, lasers, etc that destroy the enemy's ability to listen to what we're doing, sophisticated unmanned aircraft to bomb the enemy from a distance.

We don't have 50 carrier groups. Twelve to fifteen is more like it. The military knows full well the vulnerability of ships and believe it or not, has heard of the Silkworm and its like and will act accordingly. You cannot, however much you'd like, wage war from afar. In the end, it amounts to occupying territory and that means troops. Troops means weapons and armor. Weapons and armor have to be produced, here. You cannot rely on a foreign country to supply this material.

Most importantly, we need to give incentive to American industry to invent other NEW products of the future like energy sources that eliminate the need for foreign oil, like fuel cells, solar, wind, nuke, hydrogen, etc. Cars that use less fuel, more efficient building materials and cures for diseases.

American companies having access to the largest consumer market in the world is not incentive enough?

There's enough steel laying around in our junkyards to build lots more giant, outdated, vulnerable icons of past wars. Let the "Chinas" of the world force their citizenry to suffer in sweat shops & textile mills. They'll eventually revolt (just like our unions did) and probably overthrow the horrendous gov'ts they have in place now. Remember Poland in the 80's?

Well, let's hope they can because we won't be able to give them much help. Need I remind that the Egyptians didn't use their citizenry to build the pyramids and the Germans were more than willing to use slave labor to build the munitions of WWII. How shall we stop a regime that decides to go down that path again? By plugging their gun barrels with flowers? Or can we anesthetize the aggressors by showing them enough Power Point slides? (It seems to work well in a corporate setting.)

 

[mjarrels]

When cheap SCUD missles were fired at us in 1991, we just moved the carrier. Like trying to hit a running rabbit with a BB gun.

mark

 

[shvl73]

When cheap SCUD missles were fired at us in 1991, we just moved the carrier. Like trying to hit a running rabbit with a BB gun.

mark

The silkworms are a little more sophisticated. Remember the fate of the British ship Sheffield? Sunk by an Exocet missle during the falklands war. Some of these weapons are available or already owned by some nations that are ruled by fanatics.

 

[MossRoad]

I...
If we ever have another World War where are we going to get our steel from? It is turning into a matter of National Security, not just an economic catastrophe.
John

Why do you need steel if you have nukes?

I know that sounds flippant, but that is the way it is. I doubt we will see another world war in our lifetime, but suspect we will see a nuker go off. Horrible reality, indeed.

 

[MossRoad]

What is the difference between "made in mexico" and "made in usa by mexicans"?

One is a comment on the origin of the product and the other is a racist/political statement. Hope I answered your question.