Both the damper and spring are easily accessible. I think my next step is to remove the damper from the equation since (I believe) it's sole purpose is to control the return rate of the spring. This way I can see if the spring alone brings it to neutral on it's on any better or not. At least it will give me a next step. the movement needed to eliminate the creeping is pretty minimal so here's hoping I can identify an improvement between the damper/spring.
Is it possible to rebuild a HST damper?
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Both the damper and spring are easily accessible. I think my next step is to remove the damper from the equation since (I believe) it's sole purpose is to control the return rate of the spring. This way I can see if the spring alone brings it to neutral on it's on any better or not. At least it will give me a next step. the movement needed to eliminate the creeping is pretty minimal so here's hoping I can identify an improvement between the damper/spring.
oldnslo
Super Member
Sounds like you are approaching this in a very methodical manner so confident you will find the root cause.
Just throwing out ideas or things to consider.
Is there a chance moisture, dirt got into that spring damper assembly and could be causing some extra friction from corrosion? May not take much to effect its ability to return home.
Best of luck on the search for the problem
Just throwing out ideas or things to consider.
Is there a chance moisture, dirt got into that spring damper assembly and could be causing some extra friction from corrosion? May not take much to effect its ability to return home.
Best of luck on the search for the problem
RNeumann
Elite Member
I’ve been watching this thread and wondering this very thing. It’s an easy test and will likely get you back to neutral. But I suspect it’s going to stop suddenly....like wear your seatbelt and hold on to the dentures fast!
RNeumann
Elite Member
If it turns out to be the dampener they make generic ones that may be less than the dealer. Maybe some more hassle though
oldnslo
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4lane
I suspect that Kioti has a description (translation) error on the two dampeners. I believe the one that has all the springs and appears rebuildable is the centering spring assembly while the other item is a sealed gas strut that is actually dampening or controlling the rate that the spring returns to center.
This why I asked if you could access these two items to confirm one is a spring assembly that just wants to return to a given position quickly while the other is more like a shock absorber and restricts movement
I suspect that Kioti has a description (translation) error on the two dampeners. I believe the one that has all the springs and appears rebuildable is the centering spring assembly while the other item is a sealed gas strut that is actually dampening or controlling the rate that the spring returns to center.
This why I asked if you could access these two items to confirm one is a spring assembly that just wants to return to a given position quickly while the other is more like a shock absorber and restricts movement
Cold weather has broken and I've finally had a chance to dig into this further by taking apart the assembly. The spring is actually just a gas damper, and the other one is just centering and controlling the rate of return. The centering damper seemed to act just normal.
However, the little gas damper acted quite odd and I'm not sure it's working properly. After you compress it, I would expect it to extend out on it's own like a normal gas damper, but it doesn't. Seems dead to me.
Here's a video of the gas damper after I've taken it out to test it. What do you think?
However, the little gas damper acted quite odd and I'm not sure it's working properly. After you compress it, I would expect it to extend out on it's own like a normal gas damper, but it doesn't. Seems dead to me.
Here's a video of the gas damper after I've taken it out to test it. What do you think?
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