is it safe to use tractor to bring down tree

[Bedlam]

My opinion would have to agree with the Moving of the shed. I moved a slightly larger one with just a com along ,chains, and a auto floor jack, and some cedar posts.
If you empty it out, and then jack it and used the posts for rollers, and pulled with either the tractor, or the come along. Roll the building out of the path of the tree.
Then notch the tree and let it drop in where the building was. Clean the wood, (calla trucking company to bring it to my house.)
then reverse the building roll , or just relocate it once .
maybe this will help
Wood Stoves: How To Cut Wood Safely

http://www.osh.dol.govt.nz/order/catalogue/pdf/treefell.pdf#search='tree%20felling%20techniques'

Allan

 

[Timber]

It’s a small building depending on what is in it you probably don't even have to empty it. Buildings that size are very simple to move especially if you have a tractor. Allans method is correct just lift it with a floor jack. I like to put a couple of planks under it so the building rolls nice on the cedar polls. When 1 rolls out the back pick it up and put it in front

 

[SkyPup]

Whatever you do, don't hook your JD up to that tree prior to having the tree felled onto the ground. It would make more sense to hook your JD up to the barn bldg. and tow that outa there first.

Otherwise, your tree removal adventure may qualify you for the "Stupidist Things I Ever Attempted To Do With My Tractor" thread.....

 

[ovrszd]

You should be able to notch and cut the tree without the tractor hooked up to it. If you notch it and cut it properly it SHOULD fall where you want it. Cut the notch on the side asnd direction you want it to fall and make your last cut slightly above the notch and let her rip.

John, I think you need to look at the pictures. No way a notch is bringing this tree to the left. I think your tractor would pull it if it's cut properly and slowly, with the tractor pulling all it can while you are cutting. The rope is going to have to be tied at least 20 feet high to be effective, not sure how you are going to do that.

I can't tell for sure by the pictures, but I think I would go for dropping it between the shed and the corner of the fence. First I would get on top of the shed and cut all of that low limb that I could. Even if I had to have a helper and cut off the outer end first, then keep cutting blocks off and the helper catching them until I had removed all of that limb. Good Luck with this project!!!

Edit: Oooppss!!! I studied the second picture more closely. The tree is almost in line with the right side of the building. When looking at the second picture, a good notch in the right side of the tree, then start the main cut at the shed side and work your way around as you feel it pinch, finish the cut with the chain saw toward the tractor and the bar pointing straight at the shed, cutting to the right, trying to finish parallel to the notch cut. This allows the small bit of tree at the tractor side to hang onto the tree until gravity starts pulling it to the right. It will land on the horizontal limb, just to the right of the shed, and roll to the right away from the shed.

 

[elarson]

I'm going to have to go with the cautious approach on this one. I wouldn't attach anything I wanted to keep to that tree. It likely weighs four times what the tractor does, and has a big advantage in leverage. I'd Move the shed and dump it, or use a lift to piece it down. I had a friend in my younger days who cut and sold firewood for a living. He had a pickup he must have thought was invincible. He cabled his winch to the tree about 12 feet away, made his notch, and the tree barber chaired during the felling cut. Looked like a prize marlin dangling on its nose.

 

[Timber]

I have done a lot of tree cutting and the 1 predictable thing about a tree is there unpredictable. They tend to roll and with the wt off to 1 side like that you can't tell what that tree is going to do regardless of the cut. elarson it absolutely right that tree will take that tractor and toss it like a Childs toy. There is no way I would attach anything to that. If you were going to try to control the roll use the other tree but I don't think you will find a cable that won’t snap that you can carry up the tree

 

[CharlieTR]

I am no expert in tree cutting, but that tree is so unbalanced a big hinge might not keep it from twisting down the way it leans. I would vote for taking it down in pieces. But more importantly, I would listen to a man named TIMBER for such matters as this.

PS. tell them to use THEIR tractor.

 

[roermo]

Hi folks and thanks for all the input here. Sorry for the cross thread but I am in a spot with the two neighbors. One owns the shed the other the tree. I am there for the wood and help. I thought the safety thread was where it should be, but I thought some 4110 jd owners could pip in on that thread too. I think after reading the posts here and on the other thread I will stick to standing on the side lines and picking up the wood. I think I can now speak with more authority and tell them I am not comfortable hooking up my tractor to the tree while they cut it and I pull. I think I will say I am concerned about the shed and my well-being. The owner does not want us to move the shed but wants the tree down. Looks like it will come down to taking chunks off one at a time and maybe getting the branches off above the shed and then try to tackle the trunk. Or try to talk the owner of the shed to move it because it would be much safer. I think I can use the idea that he had said it was not setting level and maybe if we move it we could fix that before moving it back.

Plus this might even make a better statement, at lunch today i took a spike and drove it into the tree it is hollow the other trees had black ants in them and were hollow, I am thinking all the more reason to be worried.

I have attached another picture of the wood I have received from the owner of the trees (2) walnuts (2) mulberries, one elm. So this is why I want to be helpful but safe.

Thanks.

Roger

 

[RobJ]

I saw on Mythbusters last night a myth about a pole vaulting car when the drive shaft broke and hit a hole.

Wonder if they will tackle the myth about a tree sling shotting a tractor.

Let your friend hook up his truck, save the tractor for the cleanup work.

 

[Timber]

Now that even makes it worse Hollow trees are widow makers. That tree is gona roll for sure, at best you will probably loose the saw and the building. be careful climbing it