Is NH SuperSteer really "super"??

Bob_Skurka · Aug 29, 2005

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Is super steer similar to the Bi speed turn on the Kubotas? 

No. Bi Speed turn allows one wheel to spin faster and the other to spin slower so the turf is not torn during a turn, Bi Speed does not decrease the turning radius it just makes the tractor softer on the lawn. SuperSteer actually allows the entire axle to turn in addition to the wheels turning, consequently the turning radius of a SuperSteer equipped tractor is about 50% smaller than a conventional fixed axle tractor. SuperSteer equipped tractors also have SensiTrac installed on them that engages and disengages the 4 Wheel Drive system automatically to keep the tractor's traction at an optimum level but the damage to the ground at a minimum level.

PineRidge · Aug 29, 2005

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This is what the fun looks like from above. He may be hanging on to that grab rail to stay in the saddle.

thcri · Aug 29, 2005

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Is super steer similar to the Bi speed turn on the Kubotas? 

No. Bi Speed turn allows one wheel to spin faster and the other to spin slower so the turf is not torn during a turn, Bi Speed does not decrease the turning radius it just makes the tractor softer on the lawn. SuperSteer actually allows the entire axle to turn in addition to the wheels turning, consequently the turning radius of a SuperSteer equipped tractor is about 50% smaller than a conventional fixed axle tractor. SuperSteer equipped tractors also have SensiTrac installed on them that engages and disengages the 4 Wheel Drive system automatically to keep the tractor's traction at an optimum level but the damage to the ground at a minimum level. )

Bob,

Your not one that I would ever argue with but I am going to question you. And I don't have the facts but my understanding from my dealer and I am sure I read it some place that Super Steer will drag the inside wheel and force the outside one to turn. So to me it is somewhat the same as Bi-Speed along with shifting the axle.

My personal experience also tells me something is happening with the drive because if I come up to a tree fairly fast and turn the wheel quick I will start to tear up grass. If I come up slow and turn the steering wheel slow to allow the system to work I can turn very sharp with no tearing of the grass.

Like I said I may be wrong but this was my understanding. Maybe some of the mechanics here can give us the straight shot.

murph

Bob_Skurka · Aug 29, 2005

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murph,

I agree that SuperSteer equipped tractors have their tires spin at different rates, but what I think LBrown59 was wondering (and maybe I misunderstood his question) was is the Kubota BiSpeed essentially the same as the NH SuperSteer.

Now IF that was his question, then I would still say that the answer is "no." The purpose of BiSpeed is not to reduce the turning radius, it is to reduce turf damage. The purpose of SuperSteer is clearly to reduce the turning radius.

So I think you and I understand the way SuperSteer works, I think we really may be debating the question that LBrown59 asked??? If he asked does SuperSteer allow the wheels to rotate at different speeds like BiSpeed does, then you are clearly correct.

thcri · Aug 29, 2005

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Bob,

I misunderstood you. Looks like we both understand it right.

murph

rjanko · Aug 29, 2005

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Your decision should really come down to do you have to work in tight quarters or not and how much hill work you need to do. For tight quarters SS can't be beat; however, if you are working on hills alot you might want to reconsider. That said, hills alone are not a reason to not get SS... tight quarter work is the real driver... but you do have to be more careful when working on them due to the faster turning.

Thanks Rich

tom_k · Sep 12, 2005

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SuperSteer is a nice feature, but I can not turn tight enough while mowing to take full advantage of it without tearing up the grass. Maybe this is just a problem with my hilly site, or the site in combination with industrial tires. Can other SS owners make the tightest possible turn while mowing without damaging the turf?

mnriverrat · Sep 13, 2005

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I had a tn55 ss with galaxy turf tires that I used for seeding residential and commercial turf. I used it on a 8 foot land pride "brillion" style seeder for seeding my larger areas, mostly large yards, parks, athletic fields.... I have since upgraded to a 7635, same as a tl100, with regular turf tires without ss and I can say I realy miss the super steer in a lot of situations. It was unreal how I could seed with the 55 ss and not leave a single track. With the 7635 it takes me 50% longer to make my turns without the ss. My 55 had the sensitrack feature, I have to say I did not care for it. I tended to use it either locked in or out of 4x4. For really tight turning I used it locked out of 4x4. I will buy another ss tractor when I can justify having two tractors all of the time. I will either get a tc45 or another tn series tractor.... both have good and bad points going for them.... I just haven't decided between a physically smaller tractor or a heavier framed tractor.

Lewy44 · Sep 18, 2005

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Since this post was dated in July, I am curious if you purchased a NH with super steer? I have a TC33D with super steer and I wouldn't trade it for anything but a new one. I love the super steer for several reasons. With the longer wheel base the tractor rides smother. The front wheels are closer to the lifting point when using the loader. The turning radius is great. The automatic 4WD is great. I had the choice when I bought the tractor.

Only problem I have is going places I shouldn't. OK, so I have to admit that I have had to pull my TC33D out with my old H farmall three times. OK you ask, would I have been there with my H in the first place? ****, no. I would have known better. (HA!)

MikePA · Sep 19, 2005

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