Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

[tradosaurus]

From what I've been reading, you may not be able to insure a Cybertruck very easily. Policies are being cancelled according to some articles and social media. Take for what it's worth...

Haven't heard this being widespread on the major Tesla Forum.

 

[EscapedSuburbia]

I'm no fan of the Cybertruck but I don't put much faith in "news" articles that use words like behemoth, putz, and disaster and quotes threads on Reddit. Just goes to show what passes for journalism these days.

 

[WinterDeere]

I'm no fan of the Cybertruck but I don't put much faith in "news" articles that use words like behemoth, putz, and disaster and quotes threads on Reddit. Just goes to show what passes for journalism these days.

Agreed with your first point, but with very few exceptional high water marks, journalism has always been a sleezy business. Their product is not news, their product is advertising, news is simply the delivery system. That has always been the case, from the earliest modern newspapers!

If anything, you could say guys like Walter Cronkite and Tim Russert raised the bar to a level the rest of the industry just isn't equipped to or interested in ever matching, and gave the rest of us some false impression that there's actually ethics in journalism.

And that's not meant to be the criticism of most journalists, that it may appear to be. I know many good people go into journalism with high ideals, but it's an industry mostly not equipped to serve those ideals.

 

[eolesen]

I wouldn't trust Futurism as a source. They truly hate Elon, and take it out on Tesla's products.

 

[DarkBlack]

We can agree to disagree. Weight adds friction. Sure, ice doesn't have the same friction as snow or rain regardless. But the fact is weight still adds friction.

Yes, weight adds friction, but that added friction can create a thin layer of water between the ice and the tire.
It certainly doesn’t help acceleration, or deceleration, and usually hurts both.
When you push an empty sled, or liquid/ box container across a frozen pond along with a full, or loaded sled or container, which slides further before stopping?
Why does an adult ice skater glide much further than a child?

 

[tradosaurus]

Yes, weight adds friction, but that added friction can create a thin layer of water between the ice and the tire.
It certainly doesn’t help acceleration, or deceleration, and usually hurts both.
When you push an empty sled, or liquid/ box container across a frozen pond along with a full, or loaded sled or container, which slides further before stopping?
Why does an adult ice skater glide much further than a child?

This discussion about ice is irrelevant. Unless you have studded tires don't drive on ice.

 

[DarkBlack]

A light 2wd truck with no weight in the back is squirrelly on snowpack.

So is a heavy 2wd truck. My little 450 lb 4-wheeler is better in winter conditions than my 5,500 lb 4wd truck . Again , it’s not the overall weight. The physics advantage is to add weight to the rear of the rear wheel drive, over the drive axle to raise the wheel driver/driven ratio.

Take a heavy full sized 2wd truck and add a bunch of weight to the front end. You now have a heavier vehicle, yet it performs even worse. How can that be… it’s heavier..?

 

[BravoXray]

Driving in snow is a skill. Once mastered it all seems like common sense, but apparently not all have it. I've never had issues with any FWD vehicle with decent tires on it, except occasionally insufficient ground clearance in a sedan. RWD generally sucks, even if you have weight in the back. You almost have to try to get in trouble with AWD, though some seem to manage.

The skill of driving in snow is one that few master, and 95% lose between snow seasons. The fence at the T intersection at the end of my road is a testament to that statement. It gets hit by cars unable to stop at the stop sign at least four times a year by people that live in the area.
Last winter, there were two cars piled up there at the same time.

 

[ultrarunner]

Tesla owners I have spoken with have insurance through Tesla…

 

[WinterDeere]

Tesla owners I have spoken with have insurance through Tesla…

That's an interesting way to make money. I once remember hearing that Chrysler makes far more of financing (Chrysler Capital) than they ever did building and selling cars.