Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

[DarkBlack]

Hoping the RAM REV does well (if and when released), and should- if the specs hold up and it ends up being reliableView attachment 4375314.

As far as I know, the all electric Ram Rev was cancelled a couple months ago. E-Rev is going forward, but that’s a hybrid ..gasoline engine, electric., so not the same category as the Cyber truck.
I could be wrong, so correct me if things have changed again

 

[sd455dan]

As far as I know, the all electric Ram Rev was cancelled a couple months ago. E-Rev is going forward, but that’s a hybrid ..gasoline engine, electric., so not the same category as the Cyber truck.
I could be wrong, so correct me if things have changed again

All electric is still cancelled afaik, and yes I was linking the Extended range plug in hybrid.

Those numbers look good to me and yeah even owning an all electric model Y I still don't think ANY full EV is ready for the truck market, not a good fit for towing heavy long distance.

An extended range plug in hybrid like the EREV Oh yeah, maybe once our Rams Cummins wear out... but that may be Quite a while.

 

[WinterDeere]

I was linking the Extended range plug in hybrid.

Usually nearly twice the price of the ICE they're replacing, in other brands and models. BEV's are much cheaper to manufacture than any equivalent PHEV.

 

[eolesen]

Nah, the cost of a hybrid Honda CRV was only about $4K more than a ICE when we bought one in 2022.

I'd buy a gas hybrid F250 if it could tow 10K when I need it, and run on battery when I don't need the extra oomph.

 

[WinterDeere]

Nah, the cost of a hybrid Honda CRV was only about $4K more than a ICE when we bought one in 2022.

PHEV, or just HEV? If not a big difference in price, I'd be surprised, as that hasn't been my experience.

One I remember test-driving back in 2020 was the Volvo V60, which was $40k nicely equipped in ICE with the 2.5T, and $78k similarly-equipped in PHEV.

Of course the PHEV made gobs more torque and horsepower, but being a Volvo wagon, I'm not sure how much their primary customer base even cares about that. Last time we bought a "hot" Volvo wagon with their highest-performance package (2010), we had to special order it, since they're so unpopular that no dealer on the east coast ever stocked them.

 

[KennyG]

PHEV, or just HEV? If not a big difference in price, I'd be surprised, as that hasn't been my experience.

I guess it depends on the car and how they are equipped but on the Ford website, the conventional Escape starts at $30,000 and the plug in hybrid starts at $35,000.

 

[tradosaurus]

Never quite that bad, but I'm not towing 11k lb., either. I never tow real heavy over a long enough distance to get a great gauge on mileage, but I'd bet it's probably pulling around 8 mpg at 7k on the hitch, depending on how tall the load is (wind resistance). I have the larger tank they put in the Outdoorsman models, something like 36 gallons, so that still gives me pretty decent range.

I average 14 mpg unloaded, just running around our usual country roads, with my immature love of hard acceleration and loud exhaust.

You use your truck like a truck but where the EV shines is when it's not used as a truck.
I have a towing hitch on my Tesla Y. For sheets and grins I rented a 5x8 U-haul trailer and towed it about 200 miles. I was hauling a new oven I bought (~240 lbs).
My range went from about 300 miles to about 105 miles. Having to drop the trailer to charge was no fun.
I bought the hitch for a bike rack. I will only tow again if it's local.

 

[tradosaurus]

Ford sells over 800,000 pickup trucks a year in the US
GM sells over 1,000,000 pickup trucks a year in the US
Tesla sold 5,385 units sold in the third quarter of 2025

How many of those numbers are for fleet?

 

[tradosaurus]

I was given a Cyber Truck, I would immediately give it to a charity to resell. At least then, it would have some value.

No, you would sell it to at a steep discount.

Until you own a Tesla you can't understand the value it provides. I have Full self driving and it has reduced my hatred of driving in traffic. No other EV approaches Tesla's technology. I will buy nothing but a Tesla from now on.

 

[tradosaurus]

"The Tesla Cybertruck's towing range is significantly reduced, with real-world tests showing a realistic range of approximately 68 to 115 miles using about 75% of the battery, depending on factors like load, speed, and terrain. With a maximum tow capacity of 11,000 lbs, the range can drop to as low as 68 miles."

I wouldn't want one if they were free...seriously!

If you have a job that requires significant towing, like WinterDeere, you wouldn't buy an EV truck so your points are irrelevant.
Most people who own a truck, rarely use it for towing or hauling.
Maybe test drive a Tesla so you can educate yourself and not sound ignorant.