Is this acceptable quality on a brand new Kubota?

[Evil the Weasel]

Um. Great idea. Maybe if you DO manage to break it, you can have the same buffoon that welded it the first time make the warranty repair weld on it for ya.

 

[WaxMan]

FIND a large stone wall and go work the heck out of that loader and see how the welds do.If you cant break it moving boulders you never will.If you do its under warranty aint it?Thats what id do id beat the snot out of it and see if it lives up to KUBOTA quality.After that its all scratched and broke in ,problem behind you.MY 2 CENTS
If your goal is new tractor.Iwouldnt put any more hours on it.
ALAN

I have over 300 hrs on my tractor and it still looks brand new, I Just had a thought, maybe this guy wanted to buy a new tractor and take care of it and not beat the snot out of it. Hmm. that's a thought

 

[escavader]

I have over 300 hrs on my tractor and it still looks brand new, I Just had a thought, maybe this guy wanted to buy a new tractor and take care of it and not beat the snot out of it. Hmm. that's a thought

Buckets get scratched ,i repaint mine once a year.My point is once its used for a tractor and not a museum peice no one will notice the welds[as long as they hold]***** foot around with it while its under warrenty,and then use it for something serious after its run out-then WHAT if it fails then?
Poster needs to make up mind now park tractor get lawyer try to sue
or go through better business agency or something
test the welds now ,if it breaks insist on a new one,more leverage to work with
You guys seem to be putting NEIL on the spot aint ya.Wouldnt be cool to say another dealer is doing something wrong or right.The top dogs might not like him to say one way or the other either
ALAN

 

[WaxMan]

Buckets get scratched ,i repaint mine once a year.My point is once its used for a tractor and not a museum peice no one will notice the welds[as long as they hold]***** foot around with it while its under warrenty,and then use it for something serious after its run out-then WHAT if it fails then?
Poster needs to make up mind now park tractor get lawyer try to sue
or go through better business agency or something
test the welds now ,if it breaks insist on a new one,more leverage to work with
You guys seem to be putting NEIL on the spot aint ya.Wouldnt be cool to say another dealer is doing something wrong or right.The top dogs might not like him to say one way or the other either
ALAN

I know what your saying , but lets face it the welds are not going to break, he just thought maybe he could buy a new tractor and have it nice and keep it nice like all his other tools , there is nothing wrong with that.
I don't think anybody is worried that weld will brake they just look like s**t
In fact the one on the bucket already looks like it broke and was re-welded on top of the factory weld. I can't say this enough does anybody have a loader with bad welds? If bought this loader I would be pissed off too UNLESS they ALL looked like that then I would have to live with it.
BUT if all the other loaders were great welds I would want it replaced.
Very simple to understand. All the loaders like that, oh well. If it's just mine I would like a nicely welded one like everybody else. But so far no one has said they have a loader with bad welds now did they.

 

[BANDAMAN]

This is the tractor I traded in....picture is a couple months old. This BX2230 is near 5 years old and I managed to put near 300 hrs on it and it still looks like this. Compressed air to clean after each mowing, hand wash after every 4-5 uses and waxed once a year. Yea its got some scratches on it, especially the bottom and inside of the bucket...that is what its for. No, the wheels are not scratched up and the loader welds look those that I got high scores on by my college welding instructors, and are what I consider good welds and consistent with the others I have seen.

I am not interested in beating the snot out of my new tractor.

I'll say it again, I do not think I am being unreasonable at all, I had some communication with the dealer today, I am asking that the loader be swapped out, nothing else. I don't understand why this would be a tough decision.....

I do not need anyone to put any words in my mouth on this. There has been no ranting and raving, no cursing, and no threats. I wish I could say the same for all of the customers that I have helped over the years for much less of an issue than this.

For those that think this is about profits and speed of production vs. the cost of the end product and that this is gonna cost jobs, etc....that is ridiculous. We haven't heard yet, how many of your loader welds look like this? I haven't seen anyone agree that their's looks like this and I have seen no pictures to compare to mine and prove that mine is the norm. I think its very possible that mine is uniquely crappy or that a "bad batch" made it through the system. I am still a huge Kubota fan I truely do beleive that the quality overall (based on the hundreds I have looked at) is very high.

 

[WaxMan]

Come on... I know you wax those rims more then once a year.
After seeing what you traded in It's clear you must feel cheated out of a good replacement.

 

[Mike Costello]

Pretty sad when the trade in is in better shape than the new one. The fact is....you're not happy. Kubota needs to remove and replace that garbage loader. I wouldn't settle for anything less!


What Kubota should do is return that loader to its builder and give them a lessen quality control.

 

[johnk]

Good luck in all your endeavours. We'll see if Kubota comes through... It will be interesting.

 

[BANDAMAN]

You could drop it off the empire state building directly on its loader and those welds will be last to fail. You could hot glue gun that metal together and it wouldnt fail either, on a loader thats designed to lift 400 lbs. The very fact that you are using the tractor to move snow means you have accepted the equipment. You can't have it both ways.
If I was Kubota, all I would offer was a lifetime warranty on the loader welds. Since it hasn't failed to do what it was designed for, they have no reason to give you something else. As others have said, where does it stop? If one of the welds on the underside of the tractor frame has some spatter or "sloppy" weld, would you demand a new tractor too? Nobody has any proof those welds aren't the strongest welds in the world. If your dealer offers you as much as a keychain for your "trouble" you should graciously accept it and never mention the issue again because he doesnt even owe you that. The welder had a bad day. Don't let it ruin your life. I can just imagine how your dealer will treat you if you ever have a "real" warranty issue down the road.
And if you take offense to this just go back to the first post where Banda asked for our (my) opinion.

I appreciate everyone's opinion. This is the hottest topics to hit TBN since I can remember...not my plan at all, I figured I would just post up a few pics and get some opinions since I was waiting on a reply from my dealer.

Do you really think I just go around starting crap for fun? I hate this! I hate asking for anything! I hate the idea that some people at the dealer or at Kubota are probably throwing darts at my picture on the wall.....Please let me state again, I currently have no problem with my dealer, I am patiently going through my concerns with them and I sincerely hope it works out for the best for everyone involved. I have never mentioned the dealers name and I have never made a negative comment about them. No one knows where I bought this machine. I am pretty sure no one on this site knows exactly where I live. There are about 20 Kubota dealers within my range...Maybe I went out of state? Why would this dealer have any problem doing warranty work for me....because I asked them to make a few phone calls? Because I asked them to please get me what I feel I paid for? I just don't understand some of the logic you guys come up with... Not everyone is out to get somebody, or get something for free.

 

[Mith]

Some of the minor paint defects I wouldnt worry about, but I know with my usuage after a month it would have damage anyway.

However, the loader would be going straight back IMO. Those welds are a good example of defective welds. Maybe the strength isnt compormised too much, but the bead is very poor.
If one were to perform those welds at even a low grade certification then they would fail simply on visual inspection, let alone structurally.