It all gets so confusing

   / It all gets so confusing #11  
Equus keepus brokus!

I have less horses than you (only 3 currently), but I have found necessary implements are the front end loader, mowers although you aren't planning on a lot of grass, and a post hole digger. The post hole digger I borrow from my neighbor but not all of us have this opportunity. I am also using small rectangular bales. I'm in the process of making pallet forks in order to lift several bales at a time. You will also need some way to grade or drag your pasture and riding arena. Is this a sand arena? I'm on grass on clay (eventer and eventing horses run and jump on grass) and I use a disc harrow when my pasture gets bumpy. Depending on your setup you might want the loader to move manure or you might want to be able to throw it directly into a spreader. I need my loader more because sometimes I can't spread (winter or crops on the field). I just fill the loader and drive it to the big compost bin, where it sits until it can be spread or people take it for their gardens.
 
   / It all gets so confusing #12  
ConfusedinOregon:

Welcome to TBN :D! The first thing I will say is hang in there. The second is there are a lot of HP "junkies" out there in TBN land. I would say that you should get the most you can get within your budget considering tractor "foot print" vs intended use. Tractor specifications are generally driven by their respective sales and marketing departments. If you get caught comparing "specs" be sure to make sure you are comparing equivalent HP's, lift capacities @ lift point distances, hydraulics, dimensions, weight, etc. Dealer "feel" is just as important as tractor "feel" when comparing tractors of similar performance. A good dealership will save you money in the long run. You should look at your immediate needs as well as anticipated uses. I love my FEL and need 4WD. I always had 4WD, but I did not have a FEL for 20+ years and do not know how I managed without a FEL once I got one. If you are going to do a lot of mowing, material moving (including snow), mowing, and tilling I would go with HST. It is a lot easier on your body. If the jeep works keep it for snow removal (You spend a lot of time backing up removing snow with a FEL.). If you anticipate heavy ground engaging attachments I would go gear. I know that JD and NH have a "needs assessment" site that will help you identify tractor models that will best meet your needs as you programmed. If your terrain is uneven, sloped, hilly, and/or obstructed I would look at ground clearance as well as underbody protection plus 4WD. I believe in weighted tires and R-1's due to my needs and use. Your terrain and use will determine what type of tires you will need. Many tractor models do not protect their "soft underbelly". I did the same amount of work with my Ford 1100 (13/11 PTO HP) as I do with my NH TC29DA (29/23+ HP). I just approach my tasks differently and I get the job done more quickly. Any additional information you can provide will help the readership in sharing with you their opinions and experiences. The most important thing you should know that we at TBN are more than willing to help you spend your hard earned money as well as provide you with the "justifications" to help you convince/explain your purchases with your "comptroller" :cool:! Jay
 
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jbrumberg said:
Welcome to TBN :D! The first thing I will say is hang in there. The second is there are a lot of HP "junkies" out there in TBN land.

Yes, you are so right about HP junkies! I am looking for a TA meeting (spin off from AA called tractors anonymous) :D .
Bob
 
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  • Thread Starter
#14  
Roxynoodle,
The arena is covered with sand and rubber crumbles. I do mostly
dressage although we do lots of trail riding up here with 48,000 acres
in monument at our disposal. We have an instructor coming in and some clinics planned, the pony clubbers and 4-H's are wanting to use it to. I can only ride so much, so it's nice to open it up to folks to use as a resouce. YES, horses keep you rather broke don't they!


Jbrumberg,
Thanks for the tip on looking at ground clearance. Very good point. Nothing about the ground around here is even and there certainly are perils to an exposed underbody! BTW, I spent 37 years in MA and VT, you must be hitting peak foliage about now. I sure miss the fall in NE.

I appreciate everyone's input in helping me spend my money. There is so much good information here. I'm off today for another round of tractor testing. BTW, the JD dealer offered to bring a rig up and let me try it. Is this something all dealers do or should do? The NH dealer offered a loaner at $150/day but the JD guy was free. Free is always good. Of course he may not quite realize how far up and out we are.....
ConfusedinOregon
 
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ConfusedinOregon said:
BTW, the JD dealer offered to bring a rig up and let me try it. Is this something all dealers do or should do?

Yes, they do it. Not all, but many. Do it! You will learn more than you can imagine.
Bob
 
   / It all gets so confusing #16  
ConfusedinOregon said:
Roxynoodle,
The arena is covered with sand and rubber crumbles. I do mostly
dressage although we do lots of trail riding up here with 48,000 acres
in monument at our disposal. We have an instructor coming in and some clinics planned, the pony clubbers and 4-H's are wanting to use it to. I can only ride so much, so it's nice to open it up to folks to use as a resouce. YES, horses keep you rather broke don't they!


Jbrumberg,
Thanks for the tip on looking at ground clearance. Very good point. Nothing about the ground around here is even and there certainly are perils to an exposed underbody! BTW, I spent 37 years in MA and VT, you must be hitting peak foliage about now. I sure miss the fall in NE.

I appreciate everyone's input in helping me spend my money. There is so much good information here. I'm off today for another round of tractor testing. BTW, the JD dealer offered to bring a rig up and let me try it. Is this something all dealers do or should do? The NH dealer offered a loaner at $150/day but the JD guy was free. Free is always good. Of course he may not quite realize how far up and out we are.....
ConfusedinOregon

If you can get more of them to bring some out for demo that would be better. Then you can run them the way you will after the purchase. You have a great selection of tractors that you are looking at and I would not steer you away from any of the mentioned ones.
 
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I'm not sure what implement would be best to groom your arena. Perhaps a landscape rake would do fine. That would be a good thing to find out too before you choose a tractor. You will want one that is comfortable to manuever in there.

I would definitely take advantage of any offers from dealers for a demo. You could take the tractor around to all areas of your farm you will be using it.
 
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I have had a very good experience with Floyd A. Boyd company in Medford with my JD.

Ask for Bob Sears.

I think the dealer you buy from is more important than the brand, especially on a first tractor.
 
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#19  
Well, it was an interesting day looking at tractors. The first stop
was a Kioti dealer in Grants Pass, about 65 miles from us. The place was open, there were lots of tractors and not a soul around. I stood in the yard waving my checkbook and that didn't even help. I helped myself to a few spec sheets after 20 minutes and left. We decided that GP was just too far to go given the ease of getting to Medford or Klamath Falls and headed back to Medford to check out the Mahindra's.
There was no 3015 to crawl around and sit on to see about pedals but he did have a 2615 which I was told was exactly the same platform set-up.
Dave'sTractor, you were right. It's perfect for me as far as reaching everything comfortably, makes sense where things are etc. The 3215 is a much harder reach. While the seat moves up to be able to rest my nose on the steering wheel if I want, it is also high and I am barely able to toe down on any of the pedals. We went over the specs and such with owner and I have to say, I was pretty darn impressed. I'm glad I went back. They will be getting a couple of 3015 in stock in the next week or so we'll be going back for a test run and another complete look see.

Curly Dave, I liked the folks at Floyd Boyd and I believe it was Bob Sears that I talked with. A very nice experience all around with the JD dealer on first encounter. I plan to head back and JD is on my very short list of tractors to try along with Mahindra. I want to test drive them both on the same day although for the money, the 3015 w/turbo maybe the better choice as far as delivering power at our elevation.
As to demos, we'll see about one up here at the test drive down there.

Roxynoodle, I'm not sure just what would be the best thing to drag the arena. I've seen all sorts of things used. Chain link fencing was one inventive solution that I saw. I'll ask the footing people for some specifics.

Boy, I never realized what hard work tractor shopping is! These forums are a gold mine of information. I couldn't imagine doing research without such
a comprehensive place to go.
ConfusedinOregon
 
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Confused,
Sounds like you have many good options in your area. The interesting thing about the guys at Rogue Valley is that they were Cub dealers back when the Mitsubishi models were sold through Cub instead of Mahindra. Plus they have been in business for 20 plus years, so they are way ahead of the curve on service issues if you should ever have a problem. Many of the non-big 3 dealers lack experience. I hate to say that, but it is true. Rogue is different. They have a full shop, factory trained mechanics, etc. It really is the way all dealers should do business.

There is a product called an Arenavator, sold by Gearmore. It has 2 rows of spring "S" tines, then adjustable flatbar to control depth, then a roller on the back. Works well. I think there are lots of different designs of arena tools.
 

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