JD 316

[Bird]

<font color=blue>Any knowledge on the depreciation of little Kubotas?</font color=blue>

Not much, but I can tell you that in June '95, I paid $8,400 for a new B7100 and $2,450 for the B1630C FEL that came with it for a total of $10,850. In August '99, the dealer wrote me a check for $8,000 for it with something over 400 hours on it, when we had already agreed on a price of $15,500 for me to buy a new B2710 with the LA401 loader.

 

[pennwalk]

Compact tractors are incredibly useful. They are a ton of fun too. The new tractors from the big three are amazing. But for some of us they are just too expensive. That's where Yanmar and the other grays come in. They are much cheaper than the comparable used tractor from the big three. I was at the JD dealer friday. They had a beat JD 650 4WD with over 7000 hours for $3,300 There were puddles of fluid under this unit. You might get a comparable gray in good working order for $1000 less with maybe 800 hours on the clock. I haven't really checked into it but I was thinking you might get a small Yanmar 2WD for $2k or maybe a little less if you shopper hard. Also remember that 18 hp in a gas L&G tractor is completely different than 18 hp in a diesel compact. I have a 14 pto hp Yanmar and I run a 4' bushhog. I can cut down and chop up anything the tractor can run over. I can probably run the tractor over 8 hours on a 4 gal tank of fuel. I know I have seen Yanmar dealers in Michigan but I can't remember where. You might want to ask in the Yanmar forum. There is a dealer list thread and I know there is a good guy over in Dixon Ill.

Chris

 

[TresCrows]

I certainly have nothing against grey market tractors, my concern in this case would be resale and parts and service and warranty.
Yes, it has come to my knowledge that tractors such as the Kubotas and JD offerings and the NH (the big three I suppose) hold their value. Yes, there will be a depreciation the moment you haul it away but you get a warranty also. No, Kubotas and other compact utility tractors do not depriciate in the same manner an automobile does. For one thing car styles change and this matters to many folks, it does to me but I could really care less if the newest Kubota comes out with tail fins or the latest JD has a digital tachometer, who cares and therefore there is no styling driven depreciation. Lot of other things impact this also but again, no it appears reasonable to say that tractors do not loose their values as quickly and completely as do autos.
Yeah, despite what my TBN 7500 friends might think, I believe you may well should opt for the B7500. I will tell you this despite what the dealer thinks, it will not mow nearly as well or be as user friendly to operate but then you get some real advantages also like more clearence, a wider span on the 3-point, a torquier engine and the ability to use the R4 tires which will be great in your wooded area. Nothing worth while is ever easy or cheap.
J

 

[pennwalk]

I am not an expert but all these small diesel compacts are going to last so long that they may well out live any one owner. Especially if reasonably well cared for. A small tractor that is desirable now is very likely to be desirable when you want to sell it. Think about a ford 8N. They have an astonishing resale value. There are variables but some people have been able to buy a gray and resell it later for what they payed. I guess where you save is in assuming a little more risk. We are all pretty sure that JD will be there when you need them with qualified mechanics and parts. For me it comes down to budget. For just a little more that the 316 you might find a gray compact but any kind of a big 3 compact is going to be a lot more.

Chris

 

[JDIOWA]

Kevin,

Nice aerial. Looks like you have a little work cut out for you if you want that second access road to run to your back door.

CFB

 

[kbarrett]

Property goes right up to I-96 to the south. I-96 is a main East West interstate in lower michigan. I thought it would be pretty cool to have my own exit ramp off of the interstate.

This Exit
Kev's Place!
(Kaution, Kids, Kanine, and Kev on his Kubota)

Well, the Kubota part is still a dream at this point!

 

[kbarrett]

Dealer also mentioned that this particular ONAN-TWIN has electronic ignition. He said that all ONAN-TWINS (with electronic ignition) in the JD 316 are 18HP.

Anyone verify this?

 

[Anonymous Poster]

The mechanic was correct about the 316 having a 18 hp Onan. Essentially the JD316 was the same as the 318, but without power steering and having only one spool of hydraulics. That is if this particular 316 was a 1984 to 1992 316. JD did produce a 316 in 1978 for one year only, that came with a Kohler engine.

 

[kbarrett]

Thanks TREED!

It is from the mid eighties. It's still in the hunt too.
$1800.00 is pretty reasonable. However, I'm still looking.

 

[kbarrett]

Wouldn't you know it. They get the get the 316 all prepped and prettied up and all of sudden the price grew from $1795 to $2200. The hours aren't bad, and it is an 18HP Onan (electronic ignition) just seems to be getting a little steep for the age ( I could be wrong though).

If it were a JD318 that might be a different story. What are your thoughts. Good deal, or just use the money towards something a little more in line with my needs? (i.e. bigger tractor).