JD 5045d Problem

   / JD 5045d Problem #1  

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I needed to replace my old JD 1070 but didn't want the new JD tractors with all the EPA baggage.
Found a low hour 2013 5045D in Tennessee at a good price.
Everything the seller said was accurate but what he didn't mention was the feature that requires the tractor to come to a complete stop before shifting gears.
It has been quite a headache.
The local dealer says the feature can't be disabled to allow shifting on-the-go like I had with my older tractor.
Can someone enlighten me on why JD thought this was a useful idea?
I've never had to use the brake because as soon as the clutch is depressed, the tractor stops dead in it's tracks.
There are times I need to creep into position, like for attaching implements, but this "sudden stop" mechanism prevents that.
The lock also affects the PTO drive spline which remains in locked position when trying to engage a PTO shaft and requires rotating the drive shaft instead of the stubby output shaft.
The seller, 700 miles away, says I should have asked the question, but how am I supposed to ask about something I've never heard of.
Even in the operating manual, the stop to shift feature merits only a single line in 180 pages.
Can someone explain the reason for it or even better, a way to disable it?
 
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   / JD 5045d Problem #2  
What transmission do you have? If 9 speed (3x3) you should only have to stop when shifting range (A,B,C) (Unless you've mastered driving an unsynchronized transmission); not gears 1,2 or 3.

Or are you saying the problem is the tractor comes to a stop whenever the clutch is pushed in? Sounds like your brakes are rubbing and stopping you.

What year is your tractor? Does the axle where it meets differential (where the brakes are) feel hot after driving? There's a lot of threads here about 50 series brakes (too little/too much).
 
   / JD 5045d Problem #3  
I wonder if your 5045D has dragging brake linings caused by weak brake disc return springs???
 
   / JD 5045d Problem
  • Thread Starter
#4  
My comprehensive reply was eaten by a gremlin, so I'll try again.
The left lever is the range lever which choses A, B or R. The right lever is the gear lever which selects 1,2,3 and R.
I have tried every gear in every range and the tractor comes to an abrupt stop as if I slammed on the brakes.
I would think if the brakes were still engaging (dragging) I would sense it or at least pick up a burning odor.
The John Deere rep was sure that this model was operating exactly as intended.
I'm attaching a copy of relevant page from the ops manual so you can read it directly.
No matter, I'll try again with the Local JD Dealer to make absolutely sure that nothing can be done.
Operating Transmission.jpg.
 
   / JD 5045d Problem #5  
Dragging brake linings bathed in oil such as a JD don't have an odor. It's not Rocket scientist level diagnostics. With engine not running jack up a rear axle to determine how difficult tire is to rotate by hand.
 
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  • Thread Starter
#6  
OK, Jim,
I'll try your recommendation.
While it is a simple method to check as you suggest, it was not apparent to me because I don't know what I don't know.
What may be obvious to you as an experienced JD operator and mechanic, was not obvious to me because my knowledge level is first layer maintenance like changing oil and filters.
But I'm trying my best to know more and with constructive suggestions will try to catch up with talented guys like yourself.
 
   / JD 5045d Problem #7  
I have a 5210 close in size to your tractor, similar design and it has loaded rear tires. With the loader up, no attachment, gear and range in neutral, engine off and on level ground, I have no problem pushing it a few feet and I am not a big person. If you can not push, then what TX Jim suggests is what I would try.

In looking at JD parts catalog for the 5045d Brake Disk (5045D, 5055d) the brakes are different than in my tractor, but (always one of those) Brake Disk (5045e, 5055e, 5065e) it does looking like mine, in the illustration (see attachment) it says 5045d. Part number AL181919 is known to hang up and cause what you are experiencing. Maybe if you give the dealer your serial number he can answer which applies to your tractor.

John Deere - Parts Catalog

Hope this helps!
 

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   / JD 5045d Problem #8  
Like Texas Jim said sounds like the brakes are sticking. I will also ad I know that tractor is not Synchronized between gear ranges. I want to say there is maybe forward and reverse only synchronized on the gear selector also. Been a while since I looked at one. This tractor is a good machine but it is a bare bones machine.
 
   / JD 5045d Problem #9  
Sounds like you have the 2 range 4 speed collar shift transmission, This trans is and unsychronised trans. You have to stop to shift between gears.
 
   / JD 5045d Problem #10  
Couple of issues getting combined and confused here.
Yes you do have to stop to shift ranges.
No, the tractor shouldn't stop just because you pushed clutch in. This is symptomatic of sticking brakes.
 

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