The e's will now have electrohydraulic pto engagement, so no more dry pto clutch (room for a buddy seat now), and an air seat option.
I was pretty much set on a MY2012 5085M, but after taking a closer look at the MY2012 5083e, I'm wavering towards that instead, especially now that you can get the same hydraulics and the control layout on the right of the operator seat is identical. Sure, implement gpm is 15.9 as opposed to 18.4, but I doubt that will be noticeable under most conditions.
Here's the 5085M right hand controls:
And the MY2012 5083e:
So I would loose the throttle control on the fender and instead of being able to select 540 vs 540E via this lever next to the PTO knob:
I would select it via this handle (where is this btw?):
I'd give up the EH Hitch controls: (and the ability to adjust from the rear fender mounted switch)
And instead use these mechanical controls: (They do look a lot nicer and easier to get to than on older E Limited tractors)
And instead of selecting MFWD via this EH toggle switch (which also features auto MFWD engagement):
I'm stuck using this "old fashion" lever to the left of the operator seat: (and I think this is the only item that could possibly interfere with being able to install a buddy seat)
But I do get this indicator now:
Instead of this EH diff lock:
I get an "old fashioned" mechanical foot pedal:
Which, if anything like the one on my 4700, sometimes mean you really have to step on it to get it engaged, and then more or less stand on it to keep the diff locked.
A big plus is that I'm now able to get the M deluxe air seat as a standard $675 option:
My out the door price for a decked out 5083e w/ H260 loader would be around $15,500 less than a decked out 5085M w/ loader. This, combined with the fact that my dealer has a virtually brand new 49 backhoe with a frame that fits the e-series for $4,900, makes the 5083e vs. the 5085M with a 595 backhoe even more attractive, around $22,000 more attractive in fact.
In addition to the differences outlined above, I would loose the radial tires, corner post exhaust, 16/16 transmission and the single point hydraulic disconnect for the H260 loader, but for $22k in savings, I'm thinking that I might just be able to live with that, although I'm going to talk to my dealer about the possibility of getting the radial tires.
I do need to make the buddy seat work (wife is dictating). The only control on the left of the operator seat now is the MFWD lever as shown in the pic above. I suspect I'll still be able to get to it, at least when nobody is in the buddy seat. According to the dealer, the buddy seat bolts directly to the inner fender by drilling 3 holes in it.
Anyone here with a 2012 5083e yet that would be able to comment on what's on the left inner fender that would prevent bolting in a buddy seat?
Here's the comparison between the two configs that I'm looking at:
With the savings of going with a 5083e w/ 49 backhoe, vs. 5085M w/ 595 backhoe, I could get some really nice additional implements!
I really like the Ms, but since I'm only a weekend farmer, it is really hard to justify. I'll be putting in an order with the dealer next week for either the 5085M or the 5083e.
