JD 5083E vs M7040
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deereboy72
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5083e John Deere all they way more implements better customer service from John Deere
sixdogs
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For smooth ergonomics, engineering, user friendlimess overall fit and finish, I would go with the Kubota. The JD is more brutal and heavier with more accessories readily available such as weights and add-ons, however. Really, on a net-net basis each has goods and bads that would cancel each other out and make then equal.
If I was going to pull a chisel plow and do field work day in and day out, the JD has merit. For less grunt work and suit-and-tie manners, it's the Kubota.
If I was going to pull a chisel plow and do field work day in and day out, the JD has merit. For less grunt work and suit-and-tie manners, it's the Kubota.
art
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Where did the gross horsepower go on the deere, it seems that it has a lot of engine horsepower and not much PTO horsepower. Must be lost while running the big hydraulic pump which for some reason doesn't help the three point hitch lift system to much for capacity.
It would be nice to use the additional weight to add rear ballast to offset he loader capacity.
It would be nice to use the additional weight to add rear ballast to offset he loader capacity.
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When I was faced with almost the same dilemma (5425 vs M7040) I wound up with the 5425. In my opinion, the cab on the John Deere is better. It is bigger, roomier, has better sight lines, and the controls all fall to hand very easily.
My previous tractor was a Kubota M6800. Before that was two other Kubota tractors. I have no issues or complaints with Kubota. They build a very fine machine.
However, in my situation the John Deere is the better machine. The ergonomics, fit, and finish are as good as, if not better, than the Kubota.
Honestly, you're going to have to drive them both and see which tickles your fancy. If you are doing ground engaging type of work, my nod would definitely be the John Deere.
My previous tractor was a Kubota M6800. Before that was two other Kubota tractors. I have no issues or complaints with Kubota. They build a very fine machine.
However, in my situation the John Deere is the better machine. The ergonomics, fit, and finish are as good as, if not better, than the Kubota.
Honestly, you're going to have to drive them both and see which tickles your fancy. If you are doing ground engaging type of work, my nod would definitely be the John Deere.
bunchgrass
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This is a bump since I'm in this same situation right now. It actually seems like a more fair comparison to have the JD5083E Limited vs the Kubota 8540 - similar HP class.
With regard to the JD drop in HP at the PTO, it "appears" it's all in how JD v K calculate the engine and PTO HP. JD has a footnote at the bottom of its online brochures trying to explain the meaning of the values - the 60 series brochure has the most detailed explanation. That said, I still didn't get it but I think JD follows some standard (similar to the Bureau of Weights and Measures) to estimate HP. Whew.
I have to admit that I got caught up with tractor fever and kept moving my sights at the next one up the ladder. Dope slapped myself into reality and realized that a new basic tractor is still 1000X better than my current situation and better than the top notch unit that I can't really afford
That's life though ain't it!
With regard to the JD drop in HP at the PTO, it "appears" it's all in how JD v K calculate the engine and PTO HP. JD has a footnote at the bottom of its online brochures trying to explain the meaning of the values - the 60 series brochure has the most detailed explanation. That said, I still didn't get it but I think JD follows some standard (similar to the Bureau of Weights and Measures) to estimate HP. Whew.
I have to admit that I got caught up with tractor fever and kept moving my sights at the next one up the ladder. Dope slapped myself into reality and realized that a new basic tractor is still 1000X better than my current situation and better than the top notch unit that I can't really afford
That's life though ain't it!
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I have to admit that I got caught up with tractor fever and kept moving my sights at the next one up the ladder. Dope slapped myself into reality and realized that a new basic tractor is still 1000X better than my current situation and better than the top notch unit that I can't really afford
Yep... many of us have wandered down that same track!!
You have to make a strong distinction regarding the actual "needs vs wants" and ensure that the machine will be up to the tasks that you have determined are important to your farm/home/ranch.
I started out looking at cabbed 4520-4720 CUT's and moved into the 5000E series up to the cabbed Limited series - 5083e - and finally up to the 5000M machines.
After quite a bit of back and forth wrangling, I settled on a cabbed 5075M. Very well made tractor and very capable.
Good luck in your quest!
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I'm looking at the LS P7010C tractor too.
Compare it yourself if you need a price point option.
The price quote I got for the LS was substantially much less than the John Deere, Kubota, Massey Ferguson, Mahindra, Kioti, New Holland and Case too.
I've been researching it for some time and the John Deere and LS are at the top of my list at this time.
The John Deere is really nice but the LS price tag and 5 year warranty is something I've been thinking about since I priced one.
Compare it yourself if you need a price point option.
The price quote I got for the LS was substantially much less than the John Deere, Kubota, Massey Ferguson, Mahindra, Kioti, New Holland and Case too.
I've been researching it for some time and the John Deere and LS are at the top of my list at this time.
The John Deere is really nice but the LS price tag and 5 year warranty is something I've been thinking about since I priced one.
charleyfarmall
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Personally, I think LS has a ways to go to match Deere. I have a Kioti which is already a step up from the LS and while I think it is a great tractor, I also have two Deere's and they are much better tractors. I also have a small Kubota which never ceases to amaze me...
JD3520Turbo
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Don't forget resale value. If you are ever thinking of trading, green paint brings more money!!!
If for no other reason, that's the reason to buy John Deere. People seem to forget that angle of things.
Greg RT
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I have owned both. I have around 600 hrs in a Kubota either M7040 or a M6800. I can tell you this the Kubota is a fine machine and if you can't afford a John Deere 5083E I would suggest the Kubota 7040.
The Kubota does have a "light" feel when you operate the machine. If you have a 4X5 round bale of hay and you get it very high with the loader it will make your butt pucker for sure. Also, I have a disk that weighs around 1700lbs and the Kubota will pull it pretty good. It will need to be put in 4WD if it starts digging deep. The Kubota 7040 will also run a 9' hay cutter fairly well. If you get in thick grass if will load up some but will still operate. The Kubota has somewhat of a bumpy ride but does have a in dash AC on the cab model.
The 5085E has a heavy feel rides better and will pull my plow like a tank. You can see where the weight comes in makes a difference. It will pull my 9' hay mower with no problem again the weight seems to make a difference. The cab has more room and seems to be quiter. The Kubota 7040 steering wheel does not let down as far as the John Deere and if you're in the tractor for 6 or 7 hrs that kind of stuff matters. The one think that I really did not like on my Kubota was the throttle location. When I was in a bumpy field my leg would hit my throttle and change my RPM's. I actually had the Kubota engineers at my place to talk to me about the problem.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages over all the John Deere is just a more heavy duty tractor. Keep in mind it is also more expensive. I only bought a JD because they had a $4K competive trade allowance and I got an additional $3K because I had bought a JD Gator in the last 12 months and I got an additional 5% off in addition. If you engauge the ground (plow) buy the John Deere if possible. If you are just a hay cutter the Kubota will do just fine. The JD is a heavy tractor and more refined. That said I liked my Kubota it is a fine machine. It was $7K cheaper than the JD.
The Kubota does have a "light" feel when you operate the machine. If you have a 4X5 round bale of hay and you get it very high with the loader it will make your butt pucker for sure. Also, I have a disk that weighs around 1700lbs and the Kubota will pull it pretty good. It will need to be put in 4WD if it starts digging deep. The Kubota 7040 will also run a 9' hay cutter fairly well. If you get in thick grass if will load up some but will still operate. The Kubota has somewhat of a bumpy ride but does have a in dash AC on the cab model.
The 5085E has a heavy feel rides better and will pull my plow like a tank. You can see where the weight comes in makes a difference. It will pull my 9' hay mower with no problem again the weight seems to make a difference. The cab has more room and seems to be quiter. The Kubota 7040 steering wheel does not let down as far as the John Deere and if you're in the tractor for 6 or 7 hrs that kind of stuff matters. The one think that I really did not like on my Kubota was the throttle location. When I was in a bumpy field my leg would hit my throttle and change my RPM's. I actually had the Kubota engineers at my place to talk to me about the problem.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages over all the John Deere is just a more heavy duty tractor. Keep in mind it is also more expensive. I only bought a JD because they had a $4K competive trade allowance and I got an additional $3K because I had bought a JD Gator in the last 12 months and I got an additional 5% off in addition. If you engauge the ground (plow) buy the John Deere if possible. If you are just a hay cutter the Kubota will do just fine. The JD is a heavy tractor and more refined. That said I liked my Kubota it is a fine machine. It was $7K cheaper than the JD.
trook
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I believe the Kubota 8540 would be a much better comparison for the JD5083E. Can anyone compare these two?
bunchgrass
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I think I started this thread and I ended up with a Kubota 8540. My understanding is that the Kubotas have a full synchro transmission while JD "E" series has a "partial" (only certain gears). That said, I haven't found the synchro trans to be of significant value.
The 8540 - plenty of oomph.
Previous posts have mentioned that the JD is heavier (heavy duty).
The 8540 - plenty of oomph.
Previous posts have mentioned that the JD is heavier (heavy duty).
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I suppose with a bale of hay, things are rather relative. I used to pick my 4x5 rounds with my Kubota L3400. I thought I was doing fine. Then I got my M7040 and have no idea how I could have used too much less of a tractor for the 4x5 rounds.
Personally I think a tractor in the size of a M7040 or GL4240 and up is more than adequate for what I would do with 4x5s. I'm not in the hay business - I'm talking moving 100 or less bales from trailer to where I store them.
Personally I think a tractor in the size of a M7040 or GL4240 and up is more than adequate for what I would do with 4x5s. I'm not in the hay business - I'm talking moving 100 or less bales from trailer to where I store them.
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