JD or Kubota?

[Kyle_in_Tex]

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( As far as I know, you live in a high rise apartment in Hong Kong. But this thread, once again, appears to carry on the tractorbynet.com tradition of

There is no way for any of us to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, our tractor credentials. It's better if we can rise above petty name calling when possible...)

You can start by at least partially filling out your personal info. You don't have to put your social security numbers or driver's license or email address although many do. Some post their own websites. This tells us the person is somewhat legitimate. All too often, someone like Obirth, comes on the board all bent towards one brand or another. Some get humor out of stirring the pot. Look at the sum of all his posts. If he chooses to remain nameless, I can choose to ignore his "wisdom" (or lies) depending on which side of the fence. I choose the side of a poster with over 5000 posts/contributions vs. someone who won't even tell us where they live.
So, unless you fill out your info, your posts have no backbone to me.

Kyle (in Giddings Texas)

 

[cowboydoc]

First of all I've not only heard of people on this board getting the exact same pricing they get better than I do! The AQHA plan will get you the same or better pricing than I do. Deere has 10 different plans that I know of with corporate ties that will get you 20-30% off of list. Monsanto employees for one buy at Deere cost. Deere employs hundreds of thousands of people in this area and they all get factory pricing as well.

As far as service I got this kind of service before I owned anything more than my 4600 from them. I am by no means even a big-time rancher. I have neighbors that have 10X the amount of equipment and money in equipment that I do. Your statement is ridiculous that I'm the only one in all of John Deere that gets good service. There have been at least 10 other guys on this board that have gotten a regional manager involved and gotten satisfactory results from the process. I know at least 10 because I helped them all get in touch with the right people.

Does Deere listen to everyone? Of course they don't implement every idea that someone comes up with. I went to Deere with a problem. They sent a regional rep out to my place to look at the problems. They agreed there was a problem and worked with me to fix the problem. Deere is a dang multi-billion dollar company. You really think my few pieces of equipment qualifies me as some sort of bigshot? HECK NO. I'm just a little guy. But they listen, they fix problems, and that's just the facts whether you like it or not.

As far as what I own. Give me your home address, your home phone #, and I'll call you up and give you directions to my house. You are welcome to come over anytime and see what I have. You are welcome to go to my dealer with me and talk to them about what they've done and where I rank on the $ spent category. I'll put my money where my mouth is unlike other people here. I'm not afraid to prove who I am.

Thanks Kyle. You're also welcome anytime but as a friend. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[rtimgray]

So, unless you fill out your info, your posts have no backbone to me.

Oh no, I don't have your undying faith and approval...how will I ever recover.

I guess when I, or anyone else, fills out their profile, the Tractorbynet.com truth detector springs into action so that will automatically add value to my comments. If you blindly place your faith in the information that folks post in their profiles, then I have some oceanfront property in Arizona that I'm looking to part with quite cheaply.

I've never really understood the profile thing. I think most folks like to fill them out because everybody likes to talk about themselves, and would like to think that other people are really interested in what is in the profiles. If you feel it adds value for a poster to fill out a profile, that is fantastic. If I post a question, I will post all pertinent information in my post and not rely on folks to check out my profile to get the whole story. Nor am I secretive about my location, equipment, occupations, etc....Junkman once did an astounding study on me that probably took about 2 minutes and came up with all sorts of information. All that I'm saying, just because you claim to be something or have something in a profile is not going to carry any weight unless someone chooses to believe it.

As mentioned before, its quite obvious why a fella wouldn't want to post too much information, because if you happen to have a different opinion or post wrong information (for all we know, Obrith was merely mistaken in his information given about JD and not malicious, but folks automatically assume that he is out to deface JD). If you've only got a few posts and say anything bad about a brand, you're automatically labelled by the Tractorbynet elders as a troll or liar or worse. There was the fella that had problems with a radiator hose on his Kubota MX5000 that was pratically stoned off the board; another that had problems with a Kubota backhoe and he was viewed to be a troublemaker by a lot of folks.

If you choose to believe what a person posts based on number of posts or their profile, that is your business. I choose to base my belief on the content of the post and draw my conclusions from there. I honestly don't know if Obrith is telling the truth or not, but, as stated earlier, this thread is following the standard M.O. for many tractorbynet threads when a new guy posts conflicting information/opinions about a particular brand. With any luck, we can get this thread closed or possibly deleted, then maybe some of you guys can try to start a new thread just to pick on someone again....but then again, that's been done before too.

 

[rtimgray]

Thanks, Richard, for dispelling all of my doubts about your credentials. The very next time I am travelling through Iowa or Idaho I'll swing by...

"I'll put my money where my mouth is unlike other people here. I'm not afraid to prove who I am."

...better yet, just post all of your directions, locations, etc. right here and now, so that way you won't have to prove anything to anyone ever again, just direct them to this thread so they can check you out for themselves. Be sure to include home phone, cell phones, all the addresses and landmarks. That would shut me up for sure.

 

[cowboydoc]

Just go to my website. All of my information is already posted right there. I guess we can expect you to shut up now.

 

[rtimgray]

"I guess we can expect you to shut up now."


Well, I guess it didn't shut me up after all.

....it answered all my questions about your credibility regarding horses....but this is tractorbynet, not horsebynet.

That excellent site about horses really made me affirm your undying knowledge of tractors.

You know, Richard, I honestly have never really doubted your claims and your knowledge about tractors. I'm sure that you are quite competent and capable around farm equipment. But it's pretty obvious that you don't like your accumen being called into question - so why would anybody else, especially a new guy to the board. Why would he want to have to prove himself to a bunch of detractors who are so readily apt to dismiss anything he says anyway. He could have pointed you guys to a website, just like you did for me, and you could have dismissed his attempt at credibility in the very same fashion that I dismissed yours. The fact of the matter is, any of us who really wanted to could create some semblance of evidence to back ourselves. Obrith's case is that it seems like a real possibility that some folks would want to call and harass him or his employer - that wouldn't help him at all. Of course, Obrith could be a pot-stirring troll, and doing a fine job of it.

 

[cowboydoc]

Have a nice day Tim.

 

[rtimgray]

And you have a good one as well.

 

[slowzuki]

I thought the recall was related to castings failing in the JD TLB the 110 or whatever it is called? Not trying to start anything but would JD really recall a 4wd to turn it into an AWD? All the other CUT's are 4wd, why would anyone expect different?

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( He didn't even know that the transmissions that were recalled were NOT because they failed at all. )</font>

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">(
If you choose to believe what a person posts based on number of posts or their profile, that is your business. I choose to base my belief on the content of the post and draw my conclusions from there. I honestly don't know if Obrith is telling the truth or not, but, as stated earlier, this thread is following the standard M.O. for many tractorbynet threads when a new guy posts conflicting information/opinions about a particular brand. With any luck, we can get this thread closed or possibly deleted, then maybe some of you guys can try to start a new thread just to pick on someone again....but then again, that's been done before too. )</font>

I obviously realized that Obirth did not know what he was talking about from his 1st post on this thread...So, what about the lurkers and newbies reading unsubstantiated crap. I guess they need to go by something if they have any horse sense (pun intended) to them. What should it be then, someone who has a history backed up by years of posts, or some no name. This is not a personal attack. This is my view which I believe is probably followed by many of the major players on this site.

So Happy Its Thursday,
Kyle