JD seems to be too big for its britches

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Cornhead grease is also mixed with 140W gear oil heated by the sun & poured into the top steering gear bearings of JD A's. The mix is thick enough to not run out the bottom onto the rolla-matic & wheels.

My dealer had it out on the floor sold by tube next to the other lubes & oils - didn't have to ask.
 
   / JD seems to be too big for its britches #12  
Hi keeney. I agree with you that quanity purchasing forced on a dealer is a pain at best, however in my past life I have worked for a Toro distributor and a Ford dealership and they both have similar policies on some items. The primary question is whether a customers needs can be met and good dealer will do whatever it takes to meet that need, reguardless of the parent companies policies. In most cases the single quanities can be had but the quanity discount will be lost. I hope that will shed a little light.
 
   / JD seems to be too big for its britches #13  
If Cornhead grease is for row equipment, I don't see how one little tube is going to get you very far. Either you buy the whole lot of 32 cartridges locally or you mail order it from a dealer in Iowa who stocks it. They grow corn there. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / JD seems to be too big for its britches #14  
All it takes for them to do is to have another part number in the computer - one for the case and another for single tubes - they can be a different prices, (just like beer in 12's or singles)

Magically, from the dealer point of view, the dealers who buy a lot feel like they are getting a discount on the case quantity, and the dealer and customer who needs the occasional oddball part feels like he is getting great service and probably doesn't care about the price.

If they were really smart, they could keep track of what dealers take a lot of something and automatically request the return transfer of the singles at a premium or some other incentive. Then the parent company doesn't have to stock open cases either - only the dealers who have anough churn on the product need to have open cases.

I think part of the problem is that in the name of efficiency, I bet JD doesn't even stock the stuff at all. I bet the manufacturer they buy it from probably drop-ships the cases directly to the dealers.

Like I said, parts and supplies availability is a genuine concern for the customer. The company that does a good job on this will have an advantage over a company that doesn't.

All you have to do is watch the posts where everybody says "don't buy gray-market, you will never get parts" to realize that if a certain company gets the reputation of being hard to find parts for, they are as good as dead.

Another thing t both JD and the dealer easily could have done would have been to cross reference the stuff to something available from an auto parts, truck service, or other industrial supply source. Of course, because they want to protect their customer base of people who insist on buying JD branded-grease, they don't encourage crossing the part.

Penny-wise and pound foolish. All the money they saved on forcing case quantities of grease is instantly lost when one person reads this story and decides to buy their next machine from brand X,Y,Z, or K instead of brand J.

- Rick
 
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By the way, my new favorite JD parts dealer is a lawn & garden only dealer who has figured out that he can get CUT parts just as easily and a lot of the supplies like filters and oil are the same anyway for the smaller CUT's.

He doesn't care where I bought the machine (but he does remember that I bought a snowblower from him that had to have a special kit ordered for it).

Now I just wish I could get the JDParts website to point to him instead of the other dealer who never actually orders the stuff I submit from JDParts until I call and then they still get it wrong.

- Rick
 
   / JD seems to be too big for its britches #16  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( For the record..before I get flamed.. keep in mind that I do own a JD tractor, and am not just randomly griping at them... )</font>

Seems that this is kinda a vintage tractor issue. There really aren't problems with the stuff we buy for modern machines, and I hear that all things considered thae antique tractors are supported very well.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( This isn't a problem with JD, it's a problem with these 2 JD dealers. )</font>

However.. these 2 dealers are a DIRECT representative of JD corporate. I can't purchase anything from JD corporate.. instead.. I'm refered to my closest dealer, via their website... see the problem???

Its easy to push a bad serivce problem off on a single offending dealer.. however.. JD as the 'franchise' owner is ultimately responsible for the actions of those dealers..... or.. SHOULD be, in the case of bad customer service where it is hurting the JD name.

I know if my local NH dealer gave me a problem.. a call to my regional rep gets me a quick call from the dealer.

So far, the only way I have been able to resolve this no-service issue.. has been by contacting a friend who lives near another dealer, who actually got off their duff, and orderd the product for me... Shouldn't be that way.

Soundguy
 
   / JD seems to be too big for its britches
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Do you want the dealer to sit with 31 tubes of cornhead grease )</font>

No.. but I thought grease came in smaller quantities.. like 10 or 12 units.

And yes.. I'd have bought a 10 or 12 tube case.. even only needing 2-3 tubes.

I've ordered some pretty insignificant parts from other dealers... My nH dealer ordered a couple orings for me.. gave them to me for free.. they were less than a dollar...

While I didn't expect any 'value' added service from the deer dealer, as I only do a little business there.. I did expect _some_ service though. ( for the record... I do quite a bit of business at the NH dealer, including a couple tractor purchases in the last 3 years.. one of them being a big one.. a 7610s.. so yes.. he throws me a lynch pin for free.. or a hat.. or other goodies from time to time.. that method of customer service has been working for him.. so far I've not ever stepped foot into another NH dealer.. I've no need to.. service is great at my local one.. ). I wish the deer dealer were the same.. but like I say.. I only go in for filters and odd parts.. though in the last couple years I've bought a decent amount of parts while helping my stepfather do a clutch and full pto section rebuild in his 2240... not cheap parts either..

To clarify.. I'm not specifically angry ad JD in general.. just angry that their dealers get away with this sort of thing.. So far I've found no number or email fro a regional contact person. And yes.. instead of setting and complaining.. if I do run across appropriate contact names/email.. i will email my issue... rather than just set and harp about it..

Soundguy
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Seems that this is kinda a vintage tractor issue. )</font>

Cornhead grease isn't solely an antique tractor application product. There are many modern uses. Combines heads.. etc. Some manual remote lube systems also use a 0# grease.. or pourable grease like cornhead. I hear there are greenskeeping equipment uses as well.

Soundguy
 
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if I do run across appropriate contact names/email

Soundguy, try 800-537-8233 for consumer products or 866-993-3373 for ag products. If you don't get satisfaction, they can route you in the right direction. Hope it helps.
 

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