JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ?

   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #41  
threeman said:
I asked one question on here earlier about the physical size of the tractors. Does anyone know about size of the 5x25 vs. 7040/8540/9540

Your topic is comparing the JD to the Kubota 7040. I see that you have referenced Bota's 8540/9540 in a couple of your posts. Are you considering all 3 Kubota's? I ask because I did not want to start posting specs on too many tractors if they are not in consideration. The 8540/9540 are the same size frames, but the 7040 is smaller.
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #42  
I put together a spec sheet when comparing the 5425 to several makes and models of tractors. While an important part of any tractor shopping adventure, spec sheets only tell part of the story. Luckily, most of the tractors I was considering had been reviewed by either Nebraska or the European equilevant.

For the most part, the spec sheets provided by the manufacturers mirrored what the tests demonstrated. Interesting things to note are torque numbers, torque rise, hydraulic flow rates & pressures, and fuel consumption at rated PTO rpms in different gears.

Once you've picked out the tractors you are interested in and you feel confident the specs are comparable, it is time to drive them. This is when you get an idea of which dealer you want to work with and which tractor you want on your farm.

Since I've had the JD 5425 on our farm, a few things have stood out compared to the Kubota M6800 (caveat, remember, this a M6800 and NOT a M7040. Kubota has improved the model line); 1) The JD out pulls the M6800. When using the Reveal 4-N-1 with the M6800, I was not able to use the chisel plow feature of the 4-N-1. The 5425 pulls it with no problem in midrange gears. 2) When a heavy load is placed on the JD and you start to lose some rpm, the JD will keep pulling. In these types of situations, the M6800 would have to be put in a lower gear or the tractor would stall. 3) The hydraulics on the 5425 are quicker. The cycle times on the FEL are faster than the M6800's. The tractor has an easier time lifting heavy implements with the 3pt hitch and, when in the travel setting, carries the implement higher off the ground. 4) The 5425 feels smoother when traveling over the fields (unfair comparison as the Kubota was an open station and the JD has an air ride seat). 5) The shift throws on the JD feel more precise and are shorter throws (the M6800 does not share the same type of shifting levers as the M7040). 6) Access to the engine compartment is far, far better on the JD than the M6800. Even with the FEL removed, the M6800's FEL mounting brackets blocked access to the engine compartment on both sides of the tractor. If you needed to clean the radiator's pull-out screen, you had to remove 8 to 10 large bolts and remove part of the FEL's mounting bracking. Of course, this was after removing the FEL itself. In addition, the grill guard blocked access to the battery and made changing the air filter a bit more difficult. These problems do not exist on the 5425. It also appears the FEL issue has been addressed on the M7040.

In the end, real world experience is the only way you're going to really tell which tractor is right for you. You gotta drive them - ideally, on your farm with some implements attached to them.

When building a JD 5425 and the M7040 using the respective configurators, I came up with about a $5,500 difference between the two tractors (I don't think I need to tell anyone the JD's was the higher price). However, the JD 5425 still had more options. The price I actually paid for the JD 5425 was about $1,500 less than the M7040's configurator price. Another interesting data point, but it might not really mean that much.
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ?
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#43  
rutwad said:
Your topic is comparing the JD to the Kubota 7040. I see that you have referenced Bota's 8540/9540 in a couple of your posts. Are you considering all 3 Kubota's? I ask because I did not want to start posting specs on too many tractors if they are not in consideration. The 8540/9540 are the same size frames, but the 7040 is smaller.

reason i reference them is that i am afraid the 7040 is tick on the lite side for me. I am probably going to go 8540 if go kubota. I feel though that that is a large jump from the TN75. ??? Dont know how JD compares.

All of this has come about after much reading and going through specs.
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #44  
Too bad Fendt doesn't sell equipment here... They make some interesting tractors.
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #45  
tjkadar said:
Too bad Fendt doesn't sell equipment here... They make some interesting tractors.

You can buy them here!

To a degree I wish that Kubota would care more about the small market in Nebraska and do the tests. People in our area that came from Deeres always bring up the fuel savings on both brands of tractors that we sell. Naturally they were not the same vintage tractors!
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #46  
Europe runs tests on the Kubota and those results are accepted by Nebraska. I don't think Kubota needs to pay for having the same thing done twice. The info is out there.

I would love to get my hands on a Fendt... or maybe that Cougar mowing beast. If only I were independently wealthy. I would collect tractors like others do sports cars. Well, I would do sports cars too. Mmmmmm... Ferrari. <- How is that for digression?
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #47  
Why bother comparing a 81HP JD 5425 to a 67HP M-7040?

Do people compare 1-ton SRW GMC with a 6L V-8 to a 1-ton DRW Ford with a V-10? :confused:

Same thing here guys. 2 different classes of tractor. Only a dope would expect the M-7040 to outpull or outlift a JD5425 with 11 more HP. :rolleyes:
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #48  
tjkadar said:
Europe runs tests on the Kubota and those results are accepted by Nebraska. I don't think Kubota needs to pay for having the same thing done twice. The info is out there.

Could you give a web address to that site? I'd like to read and compare.
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #49  
Builder said:
Why bother comparing a 81HP JD 5425 to a 67HP M-7040?

Do people compare 1-ton SRW GMC with a 6L V-8 to a 1-ton DRW Ford with a V-10? :confused:

Same thing here guys. 2 different classes of tractor. Only a dope would expect the M-7040 to outpull or outlift a JD5425 with 11 more HP. :rolleyes:

M7040 is rated at 71 max (not net) engine HP versus 81 (max) engine HP on the JD. But, and here it is folks... the Kubota is 62 HP at the PTO while the JD is 65 HP at the PTO and that is why we compare the two! :D But I guess I'm a dope and didn't realize that. :rolleyes:

BillyP, this link will get you started: Tractor test results
 
   / JD5025 - Kubota 7040 - ? #50  
tjkadar said:
M7040 is rated at 71 max (not net) engine HP versus 81 (max) engine HP on the JD. But, and here it is folks... the Kubota is 62 HP at the PTO while the JD is 65 HP at the PTO and that is why we compare the two! :D But I guess I'm a dope and didn't realize that. :rolleyes:

BillyP, this link will get you started: Tractor test results

Gee, sorry I guess all this time I should have been reading your mind and known the most important thing was PTO HP even though is wasn't mentioned in the original post.
On the Kubota the 7040 seems a bit lite. I have been in the 8540 but really the size scares me off a little. Concerned its a bit too big. My equipment is mostly 7' stuff except for the harrows that are 10' pulls. Really dont use them but 5 times a year so not that big of a deal. What options on the Kubota are a must? Do they offer a 3rd function remote on the mid mount? I do like the one button lift that NH has and JD has. That way you keep your lift settings, flip one button to raise and lower the attachment. Does kubota have this?



Darn humans....so mortal are we.

Sorry for trying to help. Have a nice day. :rolleyes:
 

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