Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock

   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #11  
Some of my favoritest favorite memories involve a 59 or 60 CJ5 with a small block chevy and a Super T10 four speed. 5:38 gears and the eighty inch wheel base kept things interesting.

Occasionally I'd take it to town for grins. This was in the early seventies. The aluminum flywheel, headers, big cam, etc and so on meant that at idle at the light the whole jeep was shaking. Kids in their Roadrunners and Goats wouldn't even glance over. They'd look straight ahead. Light to light I could give the Kawasaki triples a run for their money. I could only do eighty or so but I could get there in a New York minute.

She wasn't worth a flip in the rocks, no torque due to the aluminum flywheel. But in the sand she was a ton of fun. If you are ever on I 10 when you hit Palm Springs look north. You will see a mountain with a gash taken out of the middle of it where the motorcycles and buggies used to run up. The first time out with the jeep I got stuck sideways up there. The pucker string was so tight that day a butterfly landing on it would have caused a major problem of the embarrassing kind.

After the second clutch went out, thirty eight hundred pound
scheifer, I developed a system involving a come along and the roll cage where I could pull the floor pan, drive shafts, and then slide out the tranny-transfer case combination, change out the clutch, and have it back running in about an hour.

There wasn't enough room for the reverse hook up on the Hurst shifter. So I had a separate little lever coming up through the floor board for reverse. It was also a good anti-theft device.

Once, only once, I stomped it on dirt without having it in four wheel drive. Eight inch wheelbase makes things happen so fast, violently fast. Brakes weren't an issue. The aluminum flywheel replaced them. At fifty five I could lift and if you weren't ready you were in the windshield.

She was a ton of fun. Unreliable, finicky, noisy, rough riding, but gawd, she was fast.

When I decided to put a four speed in my 79 chevy van I used the separate lever through the floor for reverse and had four on the tree. It was a hoot short shifting and catching fourth next to a gearhead. They'd almost break their necks spinning around to see the impossible.

If you have a GM pickup or van with a standard trans on the column you can change over to a Saginaw or Muncie four speed and use the original column shift if you put a reverse through the floorboard. Great entertainment value and an excellent anti-theft device.
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #12  
I am late, everything was already said. The only thing I would add is - there is enough aftermarket manufacturers for short wheel base jeeps you can build one from new parts. Of course, that would be too expensive, but as long as you have the frame and ok body, the rest can be build up, replaced, upgraded, restored to original - you name it.
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock
  • Thread Starter
#13  
Robert, I was hoping you'd see this thread as I knew you would have some pertinent tips. Thanks for ALL the good info! My experience is with a '42 MB L-head I had some 25 years ago (with crank driven hydro pump and 3PH) ... still learning about the more modern iron. I know this rig doesn't have the more preferred running gear and believe it's priced accordingly for this area.

Harv, great story(s), as usual.

Prokop, you're sure right. Things have changed a lot since the early 80's when I had my MB ... now even Amazon.com has Jeep parts!
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #14  
RobertN said:
Not sure on the windshield wipers. My buddies '72 had stock electric wipers just like my '70.

Thinking back, I might have mixed up my vehicles on this. I'm not positive about the wipers being vacume or not. I also had a 69 bronco and that might have been the one that I changed the wipers over to electric.

Now I'm thinking my problems with the wipers on the CJ was that the cover was outside the frame and it either leaked, or was full of dirt. It's hard to remember for sure, but I did have some issues with them.

Eddie
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #15  
72 CJ5 304 V8 = FUN!!! :D Although not much in the comfort or luxury dept.

Just be careful on the off camber hills as she will roll in a hurry.

Do yourself a favor and upgrade the rollbar to a fullcage and the seatbelts to full harness. Also, a steering stabilizer is good addition to keep from breaking your thumbs

Also, if I still had mine, I'm not sure that I would let inexperienced drivers behind the wheel -

Mine was rough, loud (headers & wind), cold, hot, but mostly lots of fun - good luck on your purchase

Forgot to add - the electrical wiring on mine was crude to say the least - but easy to work on as was most of the times when repairs were needed
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #16  
HB, I'm curious where your headed with this jeep.. classic, hotrod, offroad?
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock
  • Thread Starter
#17  
1B2H,
Yeh, I figured the wiring appearance was poor ... I have an '80 Dog Ramcharger, don't think it gets too much worse than that. (I haven't seen the jeep in person yet as the guy has been out of town.)

Hickory,
Classic, casual offroader and "sunday" driver ... oh, and chick magnet :D
Depending on what I wind up with, I'd probably do the "classic" upgrades, ie, PS, PB, whatever was mostly a bolt-on so as to preserve the "stock" integrity and value.
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #18  
I forgot that too... The wiring is a rats nest. At least my '70 was, and I think that continued till the "new" '75 or '76. Fuses were in odd places in-line with wires; no fuse box.

I rewired mine with a kit from California Rewire. they make custom fuse boxes and wiring. For about $225, I got a 7-fuse box with hazards and blinkers. I told them what vehicle I had, what additional items I wanted to wire(stereo, cb, extra lights etc). They put it in thier program, and printed out a point to point wire layout. They supplied the fuse box with a pigtail, and various wires in different sizes and colors for the harness. Took and afternoon to wire the whole thing. Much, much nicer...

The steering is a bolt in for the steering box. I would not leave a '72 or newer with manual steering; it is just easy to add a Camaro close ratio box.

I can't imagine a Jeep/Bronco/Scout/Land Cruiser without a full cage.

I would be careful mentioning that, with the ROPS agents silently watching this site. Much like modifying a ROPS, welding the front cage to the factory rollbar could cause all kinds of distress :D :D :D

1bush2hog said:
Do yourself a favor and upgrade the rollbar to a fullcage and the seatbelts to full harness. Also, a steering stabilizer is good addition to keep from breaking your thumbs

Forgot to add - the electrical wiring on mine was crude to say the least - but easy to work on as was most of the times when repairs were needed
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #19  
I bought a 74 CJ5 when still in High school and did almost everything to it including straightening and welding the frame shut.

The place that the CJ5 frame cracks is right below the firewall where the OEM boxed frame up front becomes an open C-channel all the way to the back. That happens right below the driver's feet and that is where mine was craked and bent. Fish plates, welding and straightening on a rack brought it all back for me.

The three speed is fine with the 304. The motorcraft 2 bbl carb worked very well for me. Easily rebuilt once and then converted to electric choke vs. the OEM exhaust heated choke spring. The distributor still used points and the cap has a little metal window that opens so that you can adjust the dwell while the engine is running. Slick as heck.

I replaced the engine with a crate motor. Easy but heavy.

Brakes in 74 were all drums, 11 inch, and when wet the manual brakes didn't work for beans. Two feet for sure. The drums had a habit of applying themselves unevenly resulting in a surprise lane change during fast brake episodes.

I replaced the wiper motor on mine which was mounted to the outside of the windshield frame under a sheet metal wiper bubble and sealed with a gasket. Mine worked well after replacing the motor.

I rewired with a generic fuse block and red wire. I added all new mechanical gauges except for the speedometer and fuel guage which I never really got to working properly.

New top, new paint, diamond plate rockers and corners, I even had my wife (then a girlfriend) sit on the front axle and wirebrush the engine bay before painting it black.

The floor will rot at the structural ribs. I patched a couple of holes around the bottom of the firewall near the driver's feet. I was told that there was actually wood used in the sheet metal reinforcement but didn't verify.

Cardboard glovebox is a nice touch. OEM seats were low back so major whiplash potential. Hot feet from the headers and underfloor mufflers.

After 76 they went to CJ7s and whole lot of changes. Meaning that a 76 and newer jeep will be easier to find parts for. I think the older ones have more class.

I sold it for a profit even after all of the investment. It is not a good primary vehicle.

I wish I still had it but I know that I made the right decision to sell it. It was cherry red. Major chick magnet. I even had the obligatory 8 foot whip antennae on a spring for the CB. 32x11.5 tires.
 
   / Jeep, '72, 304V8, 3spd, bone stock #20  
Back in highschool, my first vehicle was a 77 CJ5 w/304 3sp. Ahhhhhh....... the memories ! Mine was actually a salvage vehicle.... hit hard in the rear. I was working at a small body shop, and my boss helped me straighten it out at night and on weekends. The best part of having a 304 in a CJ5 is..... its way too much motor for that vehicle. Fun, fun, fun !! On the local cruising strip, i spanked more than a couple unsuspecting drivers. The only problem i ever recall.... was the distributor. My pop figured out we could replace it with a GM hei distributor by swapping the drive gear on the bottom.... seems they turned in reverse. I suggest you buy it if its in decent shape. They are a boatload of fun.... IF you can keep the front wheels on the ground !

Couple old polaroids is all i have left of her.

P.S. Chicks dig Jeeps !
 

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