Price Check John Deere 400x and 400cx Loader Pricing

[Zinno87]

I currently own a JD 4320. It doesn't have a loader, but I'd like to purchase one soon. JD's site lists the 400x at about $4,550 and the 400cx at $5,050, both with standard duty buckets. I'm leaning toward the 400cx, because I think the extra lift capacity is worth it. I was wondering if anyone has purchased the loaders separately and what price they paid? I don't expect to pay list, but I'm not sure how much play there is in the price.

Thanks

 

[Zinno87]

Anyone?

 

[RollTideRam]

Most people buy the loader with the tractor. I bought my tractor and loader together and did not get a separate price. Maybe someone got a separate and will share how much they paid. But every dealer does not price the same. Your best bet is to call some dealers in your area and start looking for the best deal. You may even price other make loader like bush hog or woods. JC

 

[wolc123]

The lift capacity difference beteen the (2) models is insignificant, however I would strongly reccomend the heavy duty bucket which ever one you choose. If money is an issue, go with the 400X with the heavy bucket for similar cost as the 400CX with the light one.

 

[RETIRED]

My 4520 came with 400x and heavy duty bucket so I cannot advise you on price, but I can say it has never been short of lifting capacity. I've used mine for moving snow and dirt and a few large rocks that made the back end light even with about 1000 lbs ballast on the back.

 

[JasonMac]

Whatever Loader you get, either the X or CX.... Take everyones advice! DON'T CHEAP OUT ON THE BUCKET! Get the heavy duty bucket.... Don't believe us do a search on ebay or used tractor sites and the used tractors you see with the standard duty buckets are usually bent and warped. Most people who get the standard duty buckets are usually upset that they didn't get the Heavy Duty Bucket. However in your situation, if it were me, I would be getting the 400cx loader.... better loader, and it will be worth more down the road for resale value.

 

[wolc123]

The heavy duty buckets are real tough. I bolted a couple 4 ft lengths of heavy angle to the bottom of the bucket and use it for lifting logs up to the capacity of the loader and it has handled this task well without the slightest damage. Saved megabucks not needing a seperate fork attachment. I dont think the standard bucket would stand up to that job. My nieghbor had a standard bucket on a 4720 bent up within a couple weeks of his purchase, and luckily I was there to learn from his mistake. One other thing, make sure you get the rear tires loaded from the dealer. My 4120 with loaded rears is far more effective for loader use than my neighbors 4720 with unloaded rears. I can safely handle a heaping full bucket with nothing on the back, while he must always attach a heavy implement or bulky ballast box to get comparable stability. He also cant lift logs any where near as large as I can when both tractors carry ballast on the 3pt and has taken a lot of good natured ribbing over that fact.

 

[Cidertom]

The blurb sheet for the CX says 25-30% more lift than the X. The boom is a heavier metal in the CX. I have the 400CX and love it.... most of the time. I have the 4in1 bucket and pallet forks for it. If it were not for the fact that I use the pallet forks so much I would not have the 400CX. Major bucket issue is the "roll back". While the book value for roll back is nearly the same the effective roll back is much less. Since the 400CX is self leveling, as you come up the bucket stays at the same angle. On a normal FEL as you come up the bucket appers to tilt back. So the heaping load you start with is more difficult to keep in the bucket.

So far the heaviest load I have lifted is 27" concrete culverts at 2700 lb ea. Even with loaded tires, and the backhoe on I was too light on the rear. I wound up extending the dipper and putting 400 lb of lead bricks in the bucket.

One other issue that you need to see if it works for you is the dump angle. Due to the self leveling arms, you can't lift past a certain point with the bucket fully dumped. For me it isn't an issue as I can just open up the bucket.

Also get a good greese gun. You will have a lot of grease fittings.

 

[lugnut5]

Hi zinno87 priced out a 400cx loader 4,890.00 minus 653.00 for standard bucket 780.00 for a 73" heavy duty bucket 133.00 for a 73" cutting edge 291.00 for third function hydraulic lines and 151.00 for shipping for a total of 5,592.00 this is from a dealer in new hampshire hope this helps

 

[Zinno87]

Thanks for all of the replies. I was expecting a little more off list. As for the 400x/cx decision, I'm still on the fence. Looking at the attached spec. sheet, it seems like the extra lift capacity only comes into play when you're lifting to full height. The capacities are the same at max height at the bucket pivot pin, but then the cx beats the x by about 800 lbs if you look at the capacity to full height at the lip of the bucket. So, I don't understand what the point of the cx is, aside from the self-leveling feature. I'll be moving a lot of rocks, so I've definitely been convinced into getting the heavy duty bucket.

 

[AKfish]

Been pricing new machines and attachments for a number of months, now. Quotes from WI, MN, WA, GA and of course, Alaska.

Package deals were better, of course. Ranged from around 5% (you can guess what state, that came from..) to 17.5%.

Attachments that weren't part of a tractor package (I looked for tillers, hyd. rear blade, hyd. box blade, and various Work-Pro grapples etc.) were in the 10%-13% range.

Wanted the CX with the HD bucket. Heavier materials -- 6mm -- and all the capabilities; rollback, breakout, etc. were significantly more with the CX.

Priced the skid-steer option and the 3rd function FEL for a grapple; so the extra lift made a difference for me and the extra $500 wasn't a big hurdle - moneywise.

Lookin' to pick up stumps and logs and some rock to establish hay fields and pastures. Don't know what your uses are gonna be exactly; but if I was pickin' up rocks, etc. every little advantage I could get - I'd get it!!

Which ever FEL you decide on -- the HD bucket is good advice.

AKfish

 

[dfkrug]

As for the 400x/cx decision, I'm still on the fence. Looking at the attached spec. sheet, it seems like the extra lift capacity only comes into play when you're lifting to full height. The capacities are the same at max height at the bucket pivot pin, but then the cx beats the x by about 800 lbs if you look at the capacity to full height at the lip of the bucket. So, I don't understand what the point of the cx is, aside from the self-leveling feature.

ZINNO:
I looked at the 400X/CX comparison and I don't get it either. I can see a
different curl link geometry and cyl size giving better breakout force, but
the increased lift cap over the lift cap at the pivot pin does not make
sense. Have you also considered any aftermkt loaders? (Woods, Koyker,
Westerdorf, etc?)

CIDERTOM:
Is the self-leveling feature really a benefit for you? Have you tried the
FEL after disconnecting it? I have my first self-leveling FEL with 4n1 and
I am having a hard time seeing the benefit.

I am looking at some quotations right now as I help someone buy either
a JD4720 or a Kubota L5740. Seems the Kubota LA854 has higher lift
cap at pivot and breakout force, but has no spec for lift cap at bkt edge.

 

[cwilson]

You need the heavy duty bucket most def.....but the cx is much beter for the tractor

 

[Cidertom]

ZINNO:

CIDERTOM:
Is the self-leveling feature really a benefit for you? Have you tried the
FEL after disconnecting it? I have my first self-leveling FEL with 4n1 and
I am having a hard time seeing the benefit.
.

For me yes, the self level is good. I do a lot of pallet style moving. I store a lot of stuff on racks and not having to try to feather it all the time is good. I also did it for the lift cap'y. I have lifted a few large loads, and the original lift specs were upheld. My FEL won't allow it to be disconnected as it is the bell crank style.