John Deere 4110 or New Holland TC 24

[thcri]

Okie,

The problem you have with that is the wheels of you mmm will still be dragging in the dirt. My neighbor came over to help move some dirt and that was his problem even in the high positon. The wheels would get in the loose dirt and not turn straight and would end up digging a path where they were. I would buy the kit. One thing about the Deere Mower. It does come off a lot easier than the New Holland.

Murph

 

[OkieG]

<font color="blue"> the wheels of you mmm will still be dragging in the dirt...even in the high positon...I would buy the kit.</font>

Can you explain what the latch kit does? Does it do something different than keep the deck in the high position? In the high position the MMM should be several inches above the dirt. The wheels shouldn't touch the ground except in the down position.

<font color="blue"> One thing about the Deere Mower. It does come off a lot easier than the New Holland. </font>

Can't comment on NH, but my MMM goes on and off all summer long. No big deal. The more you do it the easier it gets. I think a lot of folks just leave their deck on all through the mowing season, though. For those who like to keep the deck on, some way to keep it out of the way during 3ph use is a good thing.

OkieG

 

[Anonymous Poster]

LAGeorge,

That's a nice tractor!

The attached picture sure does show one advantage of the NH design that doesn't get mentioned too often here [or I just forget it faster than other things... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif] The drooping hood.

That has to give improved visability when doing loader work where you want to see what you are doing. I know with the square front on my Kubota, the hood sometimes gets in the way.

Myself, I went Kubota, even though there is a NH dealer less than a mile up the road. I just did not like the place. Went there three times and each time left with a negative feeling. So I ended up buying from the dealer I felt comfortable with, like many others here.

Good luck with the new tractor. No doubt it will work hard for you for many years to come.

 

[markie61]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The drooping hood.

That has to give improved visability when doing loader work where you want to see what you are doing )</font>


That and the 12LA loader! This is the first picture I've seen of it. It looks to be much nicer than the 7308 - much like the 16LA on my TC40D - the side arms don't get in the way.

I noticed the new Kioti loader for the little CK20 is similar.

Mark

 

[jyoutz]

Oakie, what model JD do you own? The lift kit is designed for the 4100. I think the other models work differently.

 

[OkieG]

<font color="blue">...kit is designed for the 4100. I think the other models work differently. </font>

That may be the answer. Mine is a JD model 855. It is a 24hp (19@PTO) hydrostat. A predecesor to the 4100.

OkieG

 

[thcri]

I have a New Holland with a 72" mower and it can be a bear to take off. I usually use the loader to lift my wheels up after I have the pins out and the PTO. But it can be a 15 minute job to get it off. My loader is very easy to take on and off. Anyway my tractor came with two pins that alls I do is raise the mower as high as it will go and then put the two pins in. Then I can lower my 3 pt hitch as low as it will go but the mower will stay up. It is a nice feature especially if you want to do some quick loader work or bush hog. If I am going to do a lot of loader work or bush hogging I will take the mower off.

From what I found you can't do that with John Deere based on my two neighbors tractors. One of the threads here said you can a lift kit for the John Deeres to accomplish the same thing. I will say the John Deere mower comes off much easier than New Holland. So maybe the lift kit is not necessary on the Deere.

Murph

 

[thcri]

Okie,

I think I misunderstood what you said. One of my neighbors has a 4100 and the other has a 955. Both of them can not use their 3 pt hitch when the mid mower mount is on. If they say for example want to go out and do some tilling the mower drops with the 3 point hitch. But, the mid mower does come off fairly easy on the Deere, much easier than the New Holland. My neighbor has tried keeping the mower on but it does drop and basically gets in the way.

Murph

Oh yes and by the way, you said you don't get snow but you get mud? Isn't mud kind of like snow, just heavier and black instead, LMAO I would still take some of it just so I would have something to move, LMAO

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

I have a JD 4110 and you can use the 3 pt hitch with the MMM mower on.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Here is a better picture of the New Holland TC 24D with the 12LA Loader

Does the new loader work better than the old one?

 

[thcri]

JDGreen,

Yes, your right on the 4x10 series. but the 41xx series it did not. Alls we were saying was when comparing the NH versus the JD was that in the previous models that was a problem but we weren't sure on the new series.

Murph

 

[thcri]

LAGeorge,

You got your self one nice looking rig there. Take care of it and you will have fun. I had some pictures of my tractor on here someplace, but I should post again.

Murph

 

[OkieG]

<font color="blue">the mower drops with the 3 point hitch. </font>

The 4100 may be different, but your neighbor with the 955 can lock his MMM in the raised position and then use a 3ph implement. He probably just doesn't know it.

Attached is a page from the mower operators manual (same for my 855 as his 955). The NOTE says the deck can be locked in the raised position for 3ph use, and instructions #7&8 tell you how to do it.

The operators hand in the illustration is on the control that will adjust the mower to the up locked position. It is on the floorboard between the footrests. The control adjusts the lowest point the mower deck will go to when you move the rockshaft lever all the way forward. It is basically as if you adjust your mower to leave your lawn cut very tall. It has no effect on the 3ph.

You'll surprise him knowing something about his tractor that he doesn't.

OkieG

 

[markie61]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Does the new loader work better than the old one? )</font>
I honestly don't know about capacities, etc. But the loader arms are MUCH lower than the 7308 loader and should really help you visibility with the curvature following the shape of the hood.

Mark

 

[thcri]

OkieG,

You may very well be right on the 955. When I was looking I did ask the dealer about the 4100 and he told me you couldn't use the 3 point with the mower in place. Another person here said you could buy a lift kit for the 4100 but the dealer did not tell me of that when I inquired. My other neighbor has a 4100 and he can not use the 3 point with the mmm in place.

When us three guys when talking at the fence post this topic came up and the guy with the 955 said he couldn't use his either. So that is only what I was going by. I did not do any research on it any further.

Murph

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

You must install a "kit" on the 4110 to allow use of 3 pt, hitch with the MMM on . I don't remember but I think it was around $78 bucks... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[banjobj]

A thing of beauty!!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[hazmat]

Congratulations. Nice machine

<font color="blue">Does the new loader work better than the old one? </font>

Higher lift height
Higher lift capacity
Looks waaay cooler!

I'd say it "works better" Timing is everything, when I bought my tractor they didn't have the TC24 or 12LA. I couldn't justify $2K to get the 21 vs the 18, but for $3500 I think the extra 6 HP & the new loader design would have been worth it. I guess in 30 years when I wear mine out, I can go shopping again!

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Hello everyone, here are some pictures of our New Holland TC24D. We have over 50 hours on the clock and the tractor continues to be the best tool we have ever purchased! Attached please find a picture of my better half at the wheel of the new tractor.
Thanks to everyone who posted on this board it really aided in my decision to go with the New Holland. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

George

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Another photo, moving some light mulch (no box spreader) but filled tires so she was safe.