John Deere 4120 V.S. Kubota Grand L4060 w/ prices

[gunmonkeyintl]

Using EVERYTHING that I, Arlen, and Eagle have stated prove to us where all these features are within your LS.

Actually, you didn't contribute a single thing to the debate other than platitudes and straw-man arguments. Arlen and Eagle were the ones that articulated the point of view that JD does offer a feature set to account for the price premium, using facts and published specifications.

You did, however, elevate the level douche-baggery in the discussion. So you do have that going for you.

 

[arlen4720]

...douche-baggery ....

I'm going to draft a letter to Webster asking them to officially add that to the English language.

 

[J F]

 

[Fordman1981]

Tractor data doesn't list tested hp in the 4120 but here are the stats of the 8320R like I said JD gives quite a bit more than they claim on this model. I wonder how many more models they under rate like this.

8320R stats:
320 hp [238.6 kW]
Engine (net): 307 hp [228.9 kW]
PTO (claimed): 263 hp [196.1 kW]
Drawbar (tested): 242.32 hp [180.7 kW]
PTO (tested): 307.31 hp [229.2 kW]

 

[murphy1244]

Tractor data doesn't list tested hp in the 4120 but here are the stats of the 8320R like I said JD gives quite a bit more than they claim on this model. I wonder how many more models they under rate like this.

8320R stats:
320 hp [238.6 kW]
Engine (net): 307 hp [228.9 kW]
PTO (claimed): 263 hp [196.1 kW]
Drawbar (tested): 242.32 hp [180.7 kW]
PTO (tested): 307.31 hp [229.2 kW]

That's a CUT if ever I saw one.

 

[DocDiesel]

Actually, you didn't contribute a single thing to the debate other than platitudes and straw-man arguments. Arlen and Eagle were the ones that articulated the point of view that JD does offer a feature set to account for the price premium, using facts and published specifications.

You did, however, elevate the level douche-baggery in the discussion. So you do have that going for you.

That's credit enough for me!

 

[Fordman1981]

That's a CUT if ever I saw one.

I never said it was a cut. Nebraska doesn't seem to test as many tractors as they used to so there was no data on the 4120 I have first hand experience with this tractor is why I used it as an example.

 

[murphy1244]

I never said it was a cut. Nebraska doesn't seem to test as many tractors as they used to so there was no data on the 4120 I have first hand experience with this tractor is why I used it as an example.

Just funning ya. Here is a good deere story http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231007&p=3408956#post3408956

 

[Fordman1981]

No problem I figure you were. Yeah I don't have any experience with the smaller JDs all the ones I have used are big ag machines made in Waterloo Iowa. I do really like that the big JDs are made in the states. I have to tell you almost every time I run the 8320R I'm grinning ear to ear like a big kid. You can have 30,000 lbs + in the grain cart get out on the road and run 26 mph. It's almost like what you have 30,000 lbs of grain plus the weight of the grain cart behind me hmm ok if you say so.

 

[jenkinsph]

here is a link to the 2009 and later 4520 which is what I have. Notice the pto hp is 10% higher than the Deere rating of 50 pto hp.


http://tractortestlab.unl.edu/c/doc...3-4e7d-b15c-120bc8bcfbda&groupId=4805395&.pdf