3-Point Hitch John Deere 5075M hitch problem

[AKfish]

After some thought on this... why offer a tractor with the lift capacity of the EH 3pt that's considerably greater than the earlier generation of comparable frame-size tractor's (2440, 2350, 2355) and match it up with extendable draft links that can't accomodate the extra weight demands?

And don't favorably compare to the earlier generation of draft links?

Pinching pennies when there's bigger money on the table...

AKfish

 

[Zebrafive]

Zebra,

We run 2 JD 6420`s on our farm. Both of them have the stronger, vertical locking systems. They are easy to use, and provide positive lock-up everytime. The "standard duty" system on my 5075m hitch is nowhere near the quality or reliability I have come to expect from a green and yellow tractor. Im hoping I can get the problem fixed.

looked at the 6415 and that is what it has too

 

[mbarber84]

Zebra, I figured it would have that type of locking system. Thats the one that should be used on the 5M series throughout the range, not just the
5105M (now 5115M)

AK, those are my exact thoughts as well. This is the point I`m hoping John Deere will notice and admit to. Hopefully they will be able to come up with a civilized solution to the problem. It was my hope that I could just order the lower arms with the stronger lock up pawls, and leave everything else the same. However, from what my dealer told me, they cant order just the arms. They have to order the entire heavy duty hitch upgrade kit which includes EVERYTHING. TO the tune of $1500.00

I find that hard to swallow. What would you do if you were running a 5105M that already had the heavy arms on it, and one of the arms got damaged? You would have to buy an entire rebuild kit?? I dont think so. Something doesnt seem right with all of this.

IT would be nice if Deere listens to our point about the hitch, and the offer a universal update for all the 5M`s with the standard hitches....(is that wishful thinking?) Id think when you buy a $42,000 tractor, heavy duty would be the main point of the whole design, especially being that its green and yellow.

Im still waiting to hear back from Deere on my problem...I`ll keep you posted.

 

[Zebrafive]

Your right the HD parts are shown on JDparts.com, but when you try to place in the cart or price them they not available thru parts.

Sometimes things not available thru parts are available from the sales side as whole goods or bundles.

I looked at the parts catalog for the 5115M and it shows the same lower links as you have as std and the HD arms as part of a kit with lift links and lift cylinders, but that kit is not available thru part either

I hope Deere steps up and repalces your lower arms and discontinues the std ones.

 

[pclausen]

I'm picking up my MY2012 5085M from the dealer today. I ordered it with the 63mm Hitch Lift Cylinders (Code 8458), which I believe means that I got the heavy duty latch system on the arms. I'll be sure to double check when I get there. I'll be pulling a very heavy Bush Hog 3209 lift type cutter, so I would hate to have this happen to me.

This is the only picture I have so far of the hitch on the new tractor, and from the angle, I can't make out if I got the regular or heavy duty latches.

 

[mbarber84]

Zebra, yes I saw that as well. I have checked with my dealer, the heavy arms are available as part of a "heavy duty 3pt hith conversion ket" which includes the lower arms, lift links, larger hydraulic cylinders, and a heavy duty top (Center) link. All to the tune of $1,500.00! I talked it over with my dealer, if Deere does not help me out with my issue, he will sell me the parts at his cost (approx. $1100) Thats not a huge savings but it helps. I was just hoping I could get ONLY the lower arms, and everything else would be fine. Im still clinging to the hope that Deere will give me some help with this problem, and as you said, hopefully Deere will stop making the standard ones as I feel they are sub-par for the kind of quality expected of a Deere machine, especially a tractor.

pclausen, nice tractor man! Unfortunately, like you said, I cant tell from the angle which type of arms those are. If they are the standard type, the unlocking tabs will slide laterally, left to right, to release the telescopic ends. If those are the ones you have, be extra careful when using them. Make sure they lock completely before going in the field. I was running a Kuhn GMD600GII HD rotary mower, (approx. 1,200lbs) when my arms failed. Let us know when you get your machine home!

 

[mbarber84]

pclausen,

I stared a little longer at your picture, and have come to the conclusion that your tractor has the STANDARD DUTY hitch system on it. I can tell by the arrangement of the 2 retention bolts that are used to keep the telescopic end from coming out of the arm.

On the standard duty model, 2 bolts are used, placed at the end of the arm and situated in-line vertically at the end of the housing.

The heavy duty model only uses 1 retention bolt.

If you take a close look at the 2 diagrams I posted earlier on this thread, you`ll see what I mean.

I hope they work out well for you, but at least you are aware that they can be an issue BEFORE you take it out in the field for a test run. I learned the hard way

 

[pclausen]

Spoke to the dealer and he verified that my tractor has the heavy duty hitch kit (in addition to the larger 63mm cylinders).

In fact, ALL MY2012 M tractors now come standard with the heavy duty hitch kit from what he was telling me. I guess they changed the design to have the 2 pins/bolts on each lower lift arms, even for the heavy duty version?

I'll check it out in greater detail when I get it home and take some pics of the pieces and post them here.

 

[mbarber84]

Thanks for the input! This means (at least to me) that Deere must have had some reservations regarding the previous designs. Hopefully that will help to get my problem fixed.

IF you have a chance, post some pics of your hitch when you get the tractor home, I`d love to see it!

 

[Zebrafive]

I too was going by the two bolts shown in the picture to conclude his has the std lower arms.

I think He can easily tell for sure just by removing the retaining bolts from one arm and removing the end link and comparing it to your post with pictures of the two versions.

I'll bet he got the std arms. I saw no change on JDparts.com to two retaining bolts for the heavy duty arms. But maybe the parts catalog needs to be updated?