John Deere and Yanmar

[Cocre]

This thread is amazing to me. Goes to show that Deere's great strength continues to be the way its marketed itself, and not really the product that it sells.

How does anything in this thread show "that Deere's great strength continues to be the way its marketed itself, and not really the product that it sells." ?

Until I owned a Deere I had NO preference for a green machine at all. I would have bought a new Mahindra had the dealer moved even $100 off his first quote. Now I am glad he did not move.

The way I see it, is that Deere markets itself is by building a quality product. And Deere is not alone in this respect, several other manufactures do the same.

Just another "Drive By".

 

[mfreund]

This thread is amazing to me. Goes to show that Deere's great strength continues to be the way its marketed itself, and not really the product that it sells.

Now if you only had customers that loyal!!

 

[Rob-D]

This thread is amazing to me. Goes to show that Deere's great strength continues to be the way its marketed itself, and not really the product that it sells.

I wouldn't put too many eggs in that basket.
Go measure the tires on your Kubota. Those tires are notorious for not having and an equal rolling radius. There was just a thread by someone talking about how his bucket is an inch or more lower on one side. My Carlyles are dead on. If it shows up in the tires where esle do you think Kubota cut corners?

JD is a stodgy old company but they do it right. If they get engines from China they will have to meet Deere's criteria. That's the difference.

 

[art]

I wouldn't put too many eggs in that basket.
Go measure the tires on your Kubota. Those tires are notorious for not having and an equal rolling radius. There was just a thread by someone talking about how his bucket is an inch or more lower on one side. My Carlyles are dead on. If it shows up in the tires where esle do you think Kubota cut corners?

JD is a stodgy old company but they do it right. If they get engines from China they will have to meet Deere's criteria. That's the difference.

Where did you get these facts? You have brought it up before in this post, I'd like to know where you get your FACTS?

Kubota buys from many manufacturers, like goodyear,firestone,carlisiles,bridgestone,armstrong and titian

 

[TripleR]

I wouldn't put too many eggs in that basket.
Go measure the tires on your Kubota. Those tires are notorious for not having and an equal rolling radius. There was just a thread by someone talking about how his bucket is an inch or more lower on one side. My Carlyles are dead on. If it shows up in the tires where esle do you think Kubota cut corners?

JD is a stodgy old company but they do it right. If they get engines from China they will have to meet Deere's criteria. That's the difference.

I have a Kubota and a John Deere and the Kubota is a match in every way to the John Deere; actually had more trouble with the JD, but that was due to poor setup as far as I can tell not quality. Both make good machines.

 

[ccsial]

Where did you get these facts? You have brought it up before in this post, I'd like to know where you get your FACTS?

Kubota buys from many manufacturers, like goodyear,firestone,carlisiles,bridgestone,armstrong and titian

When I read this post I went out and measured the tires on my Kubota, Ford and John Deere. There are all the same on each given tractor. I'd like to see the FACTS too.

 

[Rob-D]

Where did you get these facts? You have brought it up before in this post, I'd like to know where you get your FACTS?

Kubota buys from many manufacturers, like goodyear,firestone,carlisiles,bridgestone,armstrong and titian

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/146256-measure-your-tires-your-bx.html

Art and CC,
Let me know if you need anymore FACTS. You can't make this stuff up!

 

[Rob-D]

Where did you get these facts? You have brought it up before in this post, I'd like to know where you get your FACTS?

Kubota buys from many manufacturers, like goodyear,firestone,carlisiles,bridgestone,armstrong and titian

And one more time. IT'S NOT THE MANUFACTURERS THEY BUY FROM. It's the tolerances they dictate to those manufacturers!

 

[sunnyside360]

And one more time. IT'S NOT THE MANUFACTURERS THEY BUY FROM. It's the tolerances they dictate to those manufacturers!

Is there a code or other indication on a tire which specifies what the tolerance is for that tire? I sure hate the thought of paying the prices they are asking for a new tractor with unmatched tire diameters.
In fact, I'm going over to the barn now and check the tire diameters for all three of my tractors.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

Is there a code or other indication on a tire which specifies what the tolerance is for that tire?

I'm guessing not...From my experiences, this pretty much how it goes...
All tires get QA'ed prior to shipping...anything over/under the purchasers spec (or their own spec if they are desined for a tire shop, etc) gets scrubbed & sold as blems...thats why you can get a smokin deal on a "perfectly good tire" for many applications they would be fine. for a 4wd application, yeah diameter is a big deal...
My guess is that a MFG says "we'll take xx,xxx tires....as long as they hold air and are round we're happy...and they get the tires for less because the MFG doesnt have to account for ANY blems, etc...

JD on the other hand may have had issues in the past because of this and are willing to pay extra for a tire to prevent warranty work, etc..

One thing I've noticed (mostly on R1 equipped machines)...the fronts & rears are of mixed brand... my Dad had Goodyears out front and Firestones on the back of his L2900.. JD's i've seen with R1's have the same brand all around.
Even something as simple as the way a MFG measures might be a cause for the discrepency...