Update: Went to dealer today and we both signed the standard JD purchase agreement. This agreement is the same one I signed for the last two machines I bought except it has my trade-in listed. It simply says they are selling me a "new" 2520 tractor with "new" 62D mower deck and "new" 7 foot Frontier back blade for $16.5K. In trade I am giving them my used 2520 with 390 hours, my used 62D deck, and my used back blade for a total trade in allowance of $16K (I paid $16.9K for my machine 3 years ago). Total unpaid balance is $500 plus $34 state sales tax payable upon delivery of package. The line that lists the payoff value of my trade in says $0 (no loan balance). I wanted this signed because now I have the deal spelled out in writing. The serial numbers of neither machine are on the document yet, that will be added when the balance due is paid and the new machine is in. The purchase agreement has the factory order PO number listed, he showed me the factory PO on the computer for a new 2520 with deck. The 62D deck will arrive in two weeks, the tractor is schedule to arrive on June 5. No money will change hands until the package is in place and delivered. The salesman again asked if I was OK waiting until June to get my tractor because if not he'd give me the new one on the lot as soon as the deck arrived. I can't see how I can go wrong on this. I think I know enough to recognize a new tractor and new implements when they show up. I don't pay a thing until my new package arrives at my door and they load up my old stuff. I think this is going to work out. I appreciate all the warnings because I have been considering them all but I just can't see a down side to this. The best explanation I've seen on this is simply that by doing this deal with a past customer they are essentially selling a new machine at a reduced price while at the same time getting another customer to go green by offering a nice used machine. Two happy customers, no embarassing price cutting, and lots of good press as we all talk about it. Think of it this way, hypothetically lets say the dealer would normally make $4K on the sale of this package, i.e he pays $12.5K for it. He gives me a new machine for $500, takes my old one and sells it for maybe $14K. He might even already have a buyer who he knows will take the used one. He essentially sold the new machine for $14.5, still made $2000, made two sales, and has two happy customers instead of only one. Not as much profit as normal but might make sense under some circumstances to make sales and gain customers. As long as he knows he can get more than his cost of a new machine out of my old machine this deal makes him money. I'm curious Rick Wallace whether this makes any sense to you as a dealer. I have a friend who sells cars and he said he's seen this kind of thing many times. So far I'm still happy! If they show up with anything less than promised they won't get a penny from me. Someone tell me I'm not nuts. BTW, he is planning on making two more similar deals only it will cost the buyer $750 instead of $500. He said he just can't be as agressive on the next two used machines he needs on his lot.