Just another junk chainsaw

[Snobdds]

Looks like it can drive the lift around on the ground without a tow vehicle.

Makes sense.

 

[MossRoad]

Pretty slick...

 

[xyz123]

What is the contraption in front of the tire on the lift?

You can unhitch and drive it to where needed. Traction is only draw back he said on wet hilly areas.

 

[xyz123]

Farmertec G3120 Holzfforma 3120

I guess since they had the G888 clone of Gen2 880. Time for the G3120 clone for the others.

I just dont think I can do the weight of these big boys anymore. Sold all mine off in oem and clones already.

I'm always grabbing the smallest saws for the job anymore.

 

[xyz123]

Locals 455 gets road hard and put up wet. Literally.

Imo not going to be worth it this time scoring started 100psi.


Not getting fixed. Owner going to run it till cant cut anymore. It's past the wont idle anymore stage. But will take throttle and still make cuts.

 

[two_bit_score]

Sometimes you have to squeeze the last drop of life out of it then let it go.

 

[xyz123]

Guy with 455 came to pic up his saw. Brought his PR5020 back up saw with him. Think he said close to 3 years old.

Wanted me to sharpen the crap vanguard chain on it, 3/8 70dl being he said file wont touch it. I ask if tried a new file and said yes. I told him I have better chains already in 70dl and stuck a stihl RS on there for him. He will like that. Told him just use that VG crap for root cutter chain when he picks it up.

Ask how 5020 runs and do you care if I check it.
Since I knew every one I have seen ran like crap taking throttle.
He said go ahead.
It bogged and I ask him if it always did this and he said yes.
Ask him if had a couple mins I could do a tune and stop that crap.
He left smiling.


The upgrade on the PR over the PP is a side chain tensioner now too. 50cc clamshell plastic saw for budget guys. Pic of one that came in before.

I bought one back in 2013 for 169 shipped to my door to test out to compare to my other 45cc-50cc saws. Basically a cousin saw to husky 450. But using even cheaper parts. PP5020 all yellow then.

 

[JPRambo]

That echo looks like mine. And I've been using a 20 inch bar and chain.

 

[xyz123]

That echo looks like mine. And I've been using a 20 inch bar and chain.

I owned a good running echo older top handle like yours. It isnt a 20" saw IMHO.

I hope you have other saws for real cutting.

 

[JPRambo]

It's not a 20 inch saw. But, after the 18 inch oaks are on the ground don't have tobend over as far. And I don't have to shaarpeen as often.

 

[5030]

It's not a 20 inch saw. But, after the 18 inch oaks are on the ground don't have tobend over as far. And I don't have to shaarpeen as often.

Hopefully your shaarpeen is better than your spelling...lol

 

[5030]

It's not a 20 inch saw. But, after the 18 inch oaks are on the ground don't have tobend over as far. And I don't have to shaarpeen as often.

Hopefully your shaarpeen is better than your spelling...lol

 

[xyz123]

Got that bigger apple roots that went down in tornado in Aug flipped out. Had to wait on corn taking in.

Just used our old envoy xl in 4x4 low since reese hitch still on it and not my plow truck.

Old pos plastic 46cc root cutter was having issues in cut. Running out of mix. Stop cut catch up do it again. That told me stiff diaphragms.
Also fines in screen inside carb from past owner running without fuel filter few years ago.

1994 plastic 46cc saw like a stihl 025 250 in cut and weight but can be bought for nothing almost. But has air injection.

They come in chrome bore or bare bores too. Depending on model.

Common walbro wt carb kit and couldn't believe I was out of the dias it used on both sides. So ordered a bunch of kits.

 

[Eagle1]

Got that bigger apple roots that went down in tornado in Aug flipped out. Had to wait on corn taking in.

Just used our old envoy xl in 4x4 low since reese hitch still on it and not my plow truck.

Old pos plastic 46cc root cutter was having issues in cut. Running out of mix. Stop cut catch up do it again. That told me stiff diaphragms.
Also fines in screen inside carb from past owner running without fuel filter few years ago.

1994 plastic 46cc saw like a stihl 025 250 in cut and weight but can be bought for nothing almost. But has air injection.

They come in chrome bore or bare bores too. Depending on model.

Common walbro wt carb kit and couldn't believe I was out of the dias it used on both sides. So ordered a bunch of kits.

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I had one like that... would run fine then die and not restart until it cooled down. It died an ugly death on the cutting edge of the loader bucket in fit of rage.... Switched to Husky and learned how to work on them....

 

[xyz123]

Thats funny. Sounds like simple coil swap all it needed.

The cheaper husky 36 41 141 136 etc are like this plastic saw. I dont care for the plastic saws myself and why they get crap work when needed.

I actually hated having to order carb kits for this as I really dont like putting money into a plastic saw. Worth more parted out IMHO

 

[gstrom99]

Got that bigger apple roots that went down in tornado in Aug flipped out. Had to wait on corn taking in.

Just used our old envoy xl in 4x4 low since reese hitch still on it and not my plow truck.

Old pos plastic 46cc root cutter was having issues in cut. Running out of mix. Stop cut catch up do it again. That told me stiff diaphragms.
Also fines in screen inside carb from past owner running without fuel filter few years ago.

1994 plastic 46cc saw like a stihl 025 250 in cut and weight but can be bought for nothing almost. But has air injection.

They come in chrome bore or bare bores too. Depending on model.

Common walbro wt carb kit and couldn't believe I was out of the dias it used on both sides. So ordered a bunch of kits.

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Nice. I've got my SIL's old PP 5020 just sitting here, after I gave up on it. If I get time/interest after this shop is done, I may go after again. I can't stand stuff that won't run.

We have 4 Huskys, that start and run whenever needed.

 

[xyz123]

Nice. I've got my SIL's old PP 5020 just sitting here, after I gave up on it. If I get time/interest after this shop is done, I may go after again. I can't stand stuff that won't run.

We have 4 Huskys, that start and run whenever needed.

Just done one of those again other day. The newer PR5020 all black

Everyone I have had in and mine was tuned wrong. Most cheap saws are I have noticed.

Normal is carb is out of wack tune from get go. Fuel lines are epa crap and come apart and allow fines to clog carb inside.

I bought the PP5020 when first come out in 2013 for 169 shipped to my door. Early version all yellow.

Few of the epa line fails.

 

[5030]

Thats funny. Sounds like simple coil swap all it needed.

The cheaper husky 36 41 141 136 etc are like this plastic saw. I dont care for the plastic saws myself and why they get crap work when needed.

I actually hated having to order carb kits for this as I really dont like putting money into a plastic saw. Worth more parted out IMHO

Or clamshell engines though they are much easier to work on the lower ends if necessary and I suspect much easier to produce as well. MY little Echo CS is a clamshell I believe. I posted elsewhere, I believe on the Arborist forum that my ancient 028 AV has been sitting for at least since last fall on the shelf in the shop, filled with Echo Red Armor 50-1 and the bar oil tank with quality bar oil in it and I used it the other day to cut the top 14" off a maple stump one of my arborist customers cut down for me and it started and idled nicely on the 3rd pull. Popped on the second and ran on the third. I'm sold on Red Armor 50-1 canned fuel. Interestingly, not much exhaust smoke at all and the smell is interesting too. Don't smell like normal pre-mix at all. Last time I had the muffler off, I looked inside the port and there was little to no carbon buildup and the piston and rings were free and not much blow by buildup on the piston and the bore and piston had no score marks on them either. Not bad for a 45+ year old saw that started life when I owned and operated a tree trimming and removal company in north central Ohio. Kind of thought it might need a new set of crank seals but I guess not as it has good compression and runs like a raped ape. One thing I am going to do is eliminate the aluminum chain catcher under the side cover. Gonna machine a plastic roller assembly like Echo uses on the larger saws. I think that is a novel idea worth copying.

Got a friend's Dolmar in the shop. It has little compression and won't pull anything but a real short bar and chain but he has run the bags out of it on weasel pee pump gas and Stihl bottled pre mix oil. I bet it will need new crank seals and a top end rebuild as well, I'm pretty sure the piston and cylinder is cooked as well. Hopefully the crank and con rod is good to go. Fingers crossed on that. Good winter project for me.

 

[Cycledude]

Most stuff is plastic

 

[gstrom99]

Just done one of those again other day. The newer PR5020 all black

Everyone I have had in and mine was tuned wrong. Most cheap saws are I have noticed.

Normal is carb is out of wack tune from get go. Fuel lines are epa crap and come apart and allow fines to clog carb inside.

I bought the PP5020 when first come out in 2013 for 169 shipped to my door. Early version all yellow.

Few of the epa line fails.

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Wow! Is that some sort of a liner inside that yellow tube?