jyoutz
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Nope
Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!
I biasedly disagree.
Jeepnford
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Back then they probably said "It ain't no good if it ain't got a horse pulling it".
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The trouble with these debates is that they've all made some good and bad vehicles, over time. GM had massive problems with 4wd solenoids, exhaust rot, and brake line rot, all through the 1990's. At the same time, Dodge/Ram was having probems with rear diff failures and a higher incidence of transmission issues. Both corrected these problems, but have had others creep in.
Anyone who biases their opinion of a brand or model based on their own personal ownership, or even the few units owned by a few acquaintances, could be missing larger trends. And anyone who bases their opinion of a brand or model based on a variant made a full generation or decade prior, is probably widely missing the current state of affairs.
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Only over time will the good and bad come to light.
A solid warranty is how I hedge my purchases…
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... and often by the time they do, the issue has already been corrected or obsoleted by a new generation of the model. Excepting obvious acute problems (e.g. GM's early-2000's piston slap), shopping on reliability may be more useful for those buying used, as the issues are well-known by the time a given model year hits the used market.
Good point, however I towed cars for several years owned and praised Tacomas back then, majority towed were domestic manufactured. Most with minor problems a average shade tree mechanic could fix however a few tows were due to mechanical breakdowns were major problems Chrysler products in particular had major issues from what I observed. Ground was flooded with either crankcase oil or transmission fluid. A few GMC vehicles with failed transmissions but majority of gm towed were either alternators or starters and probably other electronic problems. Fords had problems I usually could not shade tree diagnose from a rollback. When I had to tow a European car it was always electrical or electronic problem.i used to not look forward to towing dodge or Chrysler products cuz after towing what I named "cripesler" products a large majority of the time I had to clean the bed of trans or crankcase fluid. These are my observations of mostly mechanical breakdowns not accidents. Meanwhile owners of asian markets would almost complain about rarely having to get a tow causing them to drive there old asian imports for years. I will say Full size domestic half ton or larger pick ups were rarely towed., My what I consider reliable GMC Sierra was towed once when the idler pulley went out throwing the belt 600 miles from home. Fixed at a gm garage up there. A little over 200 bucks for new belt idler pulley and labor ,definitely Won't get into the botched fuel filter replacement they did though.
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And let’s not forget, Ford had MASSIVE problems with the 6.0 & 6.4L diesel truck engines. They have continued to be plagued by all-around reliability issues.
John0829
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We have owned Fords from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and 20 teens and without exception the best part of owning them was seeing them in the mirror as we drove off the car lot in something else. Black holes each and every one, suspension and engine issues. The last one we kept, thankfully, for only 6 months. Will not ever waste money on another.
The GM's we have owned have all gone over 200k with nothing but what I consider normal maintenance. Even so all I am buying at my age is Tacoma's or Tundra's out luck with those has be exceptional.
The GM's we have owned have all gone over 200k with nothing but what I consider normal maintenance. Even so all I am buying at my age is Tacoma's or Tundra's out luck with those has be exceptional.
I think the diesel engines Ford offered after the 7.3 killed the Fords super dutys reputation equipped with a diesel for a generation maybe more. I will say I was kind of half heatedly looking at the 6.7 super duties for a bit though. Unfortunately I'll say the Ford website for building what I wanted was terrible at the time especially for electronically challenged individuals.