Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[Hay Dude]

My father had a '78 Power Wagon with full time 4WD which he used to plow around the property as well as a few parking lots to cover his insurance. It had 12k miles on it when he replaced both front axles... just after the warranty ran put.
He traded it that summer.

This one had a floor shifter 2wd, 4wd, 4wd lo range.

 

[WinterDeere]

I have seen plenty of stuff with the newer 6.6L gas, 6.4L hemi, and 7.3L godzilla suggesting 16ish mpg empty/8 towing 10,000 lbs, mixed driving, with the 7.3L getting like 17.1 mpg empty.

Highway miles, maybe? Probably not around town or rural roads.

I'll admit my driving is a little more aggressive than average, but I'm not exactly a teenager romping all over town, either. I average 12 MPG from my 6.4L SRT Charger, and 13 - 14 MPG from my 5.7L Hemi Ram 1500. My driving is probably 90% or more rural roads, 10% or less "in town".

 

[jjeff]

amazing to me how inefficient gasoline ice are compared to diesel. Even towing a small aluminum two place snowmobile trailer. Weather it's a gas v8 in a pick up or a modern crossover or SUV with a v6 and tow package that when not pulling a trailer gets 24+ mpg. Tow a smaller trailer with it barely exceeding freeway speeds gas mileage drops to under 10 mpg. Meanwhile a diesel pulling same smaller trailer going 10 over on freeway only drops 5 or less mpg in my experience With my 6 speed automatic. I don't think I've ever gotten less than 10 mpg even towing a fully loaded (at speed limit) 20' tandem deck over.. will some buying a diesel truck ever see a payback in price they paid? Problaby not but for me anyway there's something about spending a lot of money for even a minimally option packaged diesel truck. Knowing if for some reason you ever needed to you could tow a house.

 

[paulsharvey]

Highway miles, maybe? Probably not around town or rural roads.

I'll admit my driving is a little more aggressive than average, but I'm not exactly a teenager romping all over town, either. I average 12 MPG from my 6.4L SRT Charger, and 13 - 14 MPG from my 5.7L Hemi Ram 1500. My driving is probably 90% or more rural roads, 10% or less "in town".

Dang, my 5.7L Hemi, 4x4, crew, 2019 Classic, with 1 size up on tires, ATs, gets between 18.5-19.9, almost all rural roads. Now, those are 60 mph rural roads, and no major hills. I know when we go to north GA, those hills eat the gas.

If I have my 16 ft landscape trailer, it drops to between 11-13 mpg. Towards the high end empty and towards the low end with 5000# on a 1800# trailer. Funny thing, it doesn't seem to be the weight of the trailer that affects it most, just it being behind me...

Wife's 2019 5.7L Charger gets between 21-24.

 

[jjeff]

This one had a floor shifter 2wd, 4wd, 4wd lo range.

My 2016 still has a floor shifter for transfer case. Now every thing is push button on a friends
2004 3/4 ton Chevy has a push button 4wd transfer case system. Not surprising but I would have gotten a manual floor shifting transfer case again cuz its pretty tried and true and it works. But no longer available on newer trucks I guess.

 

[Hay Dude]

My 2016 still has a floor shifter for transfer case. Now every thing is push button on a friends
2004 3/4 ton Chevy has a push button 4wd transfer case system. Not surprising but I would have gotten a manual floor shifting transfer case again cuz its pretty tried and true and it works. But no longer available on newer trucks I guess.

I would like to agree with you, but the electric ones are very reliable. Buddy of mine owns a truck shop and repairs floor shifters that tend to get jammed or stuck, especially if the owner don’t use 4x4 enough.
I love push button 4WD. Opens up space on the floor for more leg room in my truck, too.

 

[jjeff]

Dang, my 5.7L Hemi, 4x4, crew, 2019 Classic, with 1 size up on tires, ATs, gets between 18.5-19.9, almost all rural roads. Now, those are 60 mph rural roads, and no major hills. I know when we go to north GA, those hills eat the gas.

If I have my 16 ft landscape trailer, it drops to between 11-13 mpg. Towards the high end empty and towards the low end with 5000# on a 1800# trailer. Funny thing, it doesn't seem to be the weight of the trailer that affects it most, just it being behind me...

Wife's 2019 5.7L Charger gets between 21-24.

Not pulling a trailer my truck gets between 18- 20+ a little over freeway speeds. Rare occasions I use in town truck gets 16 or so mpg not pulling anything or putting the hammer down in stop and go.

 

[jjeff]

I would like to agree with you, but the electric ones are very reliable. Buddy of mine owns a truck shop and repairs floor shifters that tend to get jammed or stuck, especially if the owner don’t use 4x4 enough.
I love push button 4WD. Opens up space on the floor for more leg room in my truck, too.

Gmc did a pretty good job of making a handy trimmed out storage tray around transfer case shifter. I've never had manual transfer case shifting problems weather it was one of my previous old Toyotas or my GMC. However a transfer case mounted external speed sensor went out on it a few yrs ago the Allison went into a limp mode and either started out in a higher gear 3rd I think and only went up to the 4th gear max.

 

[Renze]

In some cases, it may have been true. Some early ABS implementations had only one or two solenoids, cycling pressure either to the entire system, or to both fronts or both rears at the same time.

The Mercedes W-116 was the first production car in 1978 that had four wheel ABS, though my first car, a 1991 Volvo 440 1.7, didnt have it. My next was a 1995 turbodiesel which had it as standard, and every other since the mid 90s

So i didnt know an ABS system ever existed merely as a generic brake pulsator...

 

[Renze]

Lol no I wasn't
In utah nor do I off road that truck like I did my Tacomas when I was young and dumber. Problaby could have used him 20+ or so yrs ago though.

Having a front wheel drive family car or a lifted truck doesnt say anything about, if you get stuck: It just dictates WHERE you get stuck.

Though, there are some offroad trucks that if they do get stuck, youve got to bring a crawler to get them out