Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #681  
Now heat vs AC, I want heat more than AC... When it's -10 it sucks to drive a truck with no heat more than no AC at 100. Of course in FL I'm in shorts 99% of the year, NO way to survive there with out AC 🤣
Are heat and AC still even options? I assumed they are included as "factory basic" in every pickup truck made today.

I also didn't list "wheels" in my options. I assume they're included. :p

An older buddy used to like to tell a story of a time he tried to order a Jeep CJ with no options. Apparently, Jeep used to like to advertise super low "starting from $xxxx" prices, because they made everything down to the wheels themselves an option. This buddy went to the local Jeep dealership, and asked to buy the basic configuration advertised at that "starting from $xxxx" price, and was told he couldn't.

Salesman: "But it doesn't have wheels or a windshield!"

Buddy: "I'm fine with that, I have them at home."

Salesman: "Sorry, we're not allowed to sell it that way."

Buddy: "So why do you advertise that as the price?"
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #682  
On second thought, as a truly spare, farm, and around type vehicle; I could go even more spartan. I probably would be willing to forgo windows (maybe a fold up wind screen, love bugs hurt at 65 mph), and skip ac and heat, and have a rhino lined interior, and vinyl. It still need to be street legal, 4wd, able to run 65mph or so, have lights, but if I could get that with a 2500-3000 lbs bed payload rating... I dont even need it to be a Large/Long bed, just big enough to say, hold two pallets.

Think a over sized UTV, thats street legal. You would choose to drive it 35 miles, most time, but 4 miles to hardware store, sure. And in a pinch, yes, you could drive it 50 miles or more.

Heck, i wouldn't even ask for a key ignition,
 
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   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #683  
Are heat and AC still even options? I assumed they are included as "factory basic" in every pickup truck made today.

I also didn't list "wheels" in my options. I assume they're included. :p

An older buddy used to like to tell a story of a time he tried to order a Jeep CJ with no options. Apparently, Jeep used to like to advertise super low "starting from $xxxx" prices, because they made everything down to the wheels themselves an option. This buddy went to the local Jeep dealership, and asked to buy the basic configuration advertised at that "starting from $xxxx" price, and was told he couldn't.

Salesman: "But it doesn't have wheels or a windshield!"

Buddy: "I'm fine with that, I have them at home."

Salesman: "Sorry, we're not allowed to sell it that way."

Buddy: "So why do you advertise that as the price?"
Heat is normally there but if your valve or heater core fail, you find out how much you miss it. Had one fail on a 5 degree morning with a 2 hour drive I had to make. :mad: It was fixed ASAP
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #684  
On second thought, as a truly spare, farm, and around type vehicle; I could go even more spartan. I probably would be willing to forgo windows (maybe a fold up wind screen, love bugs hurt at 65 mph, ac, heat, and have a rhino lined interior, and vinyl. It still need to be street legal, 4wd, able to run 65mph or so, have lights, but if I could get that with a 2500-3000 lbs bed payload rating... I dont even need it to be a Large/Long bed, just big enough to say, hold two pallets.

Think a over sized UTV, thats street legal. You would choose to drive it 35 miles, most time, but 4 miles to hardware store, sure. And in a pinch, yes, you could drive it 50 miles or more.

Heck, i would even ask for a key ignition,
How would you fit 2 pallets of stuff in <8 foot bed. I see a pallet as 4 x 4 foot square or bigger.
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #685  
Give me the heat any day over the cold.
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #687  
Give me the heat any day over the cold.
I can dress for the coldest days we ever have, without much effort. But there's only so much I can take off on a hot day, before the neighbors complain.

Besides, running a chainsaw nude could have undesirable results. :p
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #688  
You could carry 2 pallets in a shortbed truck by lowering the tailgate and using a ratchet strap to insure they don’t slide out
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #689  
I can dress for the coldest days we ever have, without much effort. But there's only so much I can take off on a hot day, before the neighbors complain.

Besides, running a chainsaw nude could have undesirable results. :p

When it gets cold, every work, football, lacrosse and boxing injury I have comes back to haunt me.
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #690  
Rubberized vinyl floors, cloth, not vinyl seats spray in bed liner was cheaper as part of an other option package. Work truck convenience package, I splurged on this truck I ordered rear USB ports which also included a bed AC power outlet comes with a cab ac outlet also Cab marker lights, Tow package with factory electric trailer brake controller, defrosting manually folding extending mirrors. Ac, cruise, power windows and locks, rear window defrost Alaska snow plow prep package w/ out the freaking grizzly bear graphics logo on bed. Id order it with a 6 speed manual if I could have and manual 4x4 floor shifter but neither were available. Priciest option upgrade was the 6.6 Duramax. Definitely didn't get a white colored truck. 18" wheels w/ all terrain tires, also part of an option package. Trucks these days come with a lot of things I've grown accustomed to like a backup camera, exhaust brake on diesels, etc. most other options I could have cared less for but came with another package I wanted or come standard I guess. Problaby forgetting a few things looking forward to taking delivery of my new truck. Fingers 🤞 it's as reliable as my Sierra has been.
 

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