Just got a new trailer, and may be in trouble with GVWR. Advice needed.

[ovrszd]

I believe so as well Chris.

But,,,, to get legal,,,, he can probably shift the load.

 

[screamin400]

I hope that's a typo. 5K isn't enough trailer.

Was meant to be 10k or 5t. I goofed.

 

[Steve1300]

Just changed out my trailer as well. Craig's List works well, but if you are offering a "good deal," you'll be swamped with contacts. However, the old 7K is gone and I have a new 12K instead. With my tractor weighing an assumed 8K as it sits with implements, I think I would have bent axles as well as been illegal.

 

[Soldier415]

Actually weighed, or from the advertising literature?

Bruce

2,060 listed on the title

What you needed to weigh, while loaded, was the trailer tandems. You have no issue with GCVWR. You also have no problem with overloading the truck. Your only concern is the trailer weight when loaded. If it exceeds 7K on the trailer axles rearrange the load, putting more on the truck.

Probably should have bought a 10K trailer.

Thats a good point. My cousin runs the scale so I can use it any time. Only about 15 minutes away.

 

[Soldier415]

All of this discussion is futile until we know what the trailer axles scale when loaded.

Beyond getting the trailer under it's capacity, pull quality can be positively or negatively changed by moving the load. On my 32' GN it's a matter of a few inches fore/aft.

When I load the tractor I put the FEL bucket up on the front rail. This puts the rear of the tractor right over the axles. Can't really pull it forward more. The other option would be backing it on but that might put too much weight on the tongue.

Be handy to know where the heaviest part of the tractor is and where the center of balance is.

 

[Soldier415]

Agree that you should have bought a larger trailer.

Are you sure the trailer weighs 2000 and the cab only 200.
You also have to add weight of chains and binders, trailer spare wheel and tire, any storage box added to trailer, any options to the cab you added that would add weight. Actual weights of all items such as Tractor, trailer, attachments etc. do vary from what the sales brochures say.

The extra 1000 lbs. on the trailer will eventually put extra wear and tear on it. If you got it for a good deal I'd try to sell it for the same or a little more and buy a bigger (and maybe longer) trailer.

I went through the same thing when I bought my new tractor. It made my 7K trailer overloaded by almost the same 1K. I didn't want to take the chance of getting polled into a weigh station (there's one I have to pass only 2 miles from my house) and getting ticketed. I sold mine easily in about a week and went looking for a 10-12K trailer and ended up with a 14K.

Going off the manufacturer listed weights for the trailer and cab.

I got the trailer for $3k, about $700 under MSRP. I could sell it pretty easily for what I paid for it. Looking around at a different dealer and they have a Reiser 10k GVWR 20' equipment trailer for $3,745.00

Don't know anything about that brand.

 

[Midniteoyl]

In any case, until you figure something out, put in an extra 4psi of air in the tires..

 

[4570Man]

The loader weight is likely without a bucket. The tractor weight is likely without fluid. The fluid weight in the tires likely isn't exactly 600 pounds. And you have chains and binders. I'm sure you had other stuff. There's an easy 800 pounds.

 

[aczlan]

When I load the tractor I put the FEL bucket up on the front rail. This puts the rear of the tractor right over the axles. Can't really pull it forward more. The other option would be backing it on but that might put too much weight on the tongue.
Be handy to know where the heaviest part of the tractor is and where the center of balance is.

All you need to know is how much weight is on each axle and per your post below, you have a way to find that out:

My cousin runs the scale so I can use it any time. Only about 15 minutes away.

Might try rolling the bucket as far into "dump" as you can so the lower pivot for the bucket is above the front rail so you can get it forward another foot.

Aaron Z

 

[ovrszd]

Backing on, even with the tiller, will move weight forward. Only way you will overload the tongue is if you exceed the trucks rear axle capacity.

With loaded tires your tractor's rear axle is heaviest. The FEL weight is distributed between the resting bucket and the center of the tractor. Only time it's loading the tractor front axle is when elevated.