Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag...

   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag...
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Thanks guys...

Right now I'm really leaning towards the Deere, just for the fact that it has a lot of features I like. If I could get a Kubota 2630 or 3030 I would but the dealer here has been less than helpful and whatever the list price for these things is it's what he asks unless they are on sale from the manufacturer, his stock is limited. He has a 7800 on the lot equipped the way I want with the "sale" price, about 6000$ off the regular price. It's only about 1000$ less than the Deere.

The 2630 on sale (which he no longer has) was about the same price as the 7800. Now a 2630 not on sale and NO backhoe would be almost 24k. I can get the Deere with all the loaded features the 200cx loader and 46 BH for about 28K. All the specs. I see depend on what size tractor the attachments are connected to, so a 7800 will lift more and higher than a 200cx but is it a few #'s or 500#? Are we talking lifting 2" more or 1' more?

Like I said the Deere dealer may be 200 miles away but I've got a better relationship with him over the phone than the Kubota dealer here that I've seen half a dozen times. My old neighbor is the parts manager for Deere here. He told me that his shop, while they don't sell the CUTs anymore, still get parts and maintain them no problem so if I get the thing I wont have any problems.

Funny I'm considering a Deere, I've always been a Kubota fan!
 
   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag... #62  
Not sure if you might be interested in used (and a drive to New England) but this seemed like a very good deal (especially considering the implements). This is a listing from a regional advertizer paper:



2006 JOHN DEERE 2520
4WD tractor. Hydrostatic drive, 3-cyl diesel, 26.5hp, 3-pt hitch, wgt box, tires, loaded, mid & rear PTO's, quick hitch frt loader, 61" bucket & pallet forks, 54" Curtis snowplow for frt loader (never used), John Deere 47" frt mount snowblower quick hitch w/hydraulic lift. 1 rear work light, 2 frt work lights, pwr beyond kit for backhoe. $20,0000; (Dover, NH) (cell) 603-817-0339 f
 
   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag... #63  
Just another point to ponder. The B7800, B2630 and B3030 Kubotas are physically larger tractors than the JD2520. While the JD may do anything you need it to do, this is not a straight apples to apples comparison. Another way to compare them would be to think of the B7800 and the B3030 as 30 HP tractors, sized accordingly, and the JD2520 as a 26 HP tractor sized to correspond to its' HP. The B2630 is a large tractor with a smaller engine. If you have time you should look and drive both of them before you buy. That way you will never have the doubt in your mind that you may have made a mistake. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. Too bad you missed on the the chance to get a B2630 for the same price as the JD2520. The orange tractor is simply more bang for the buck, IMHO. And I am a JD guy that bought a Kubota. Go figure. Good luck.
 
   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag... #64  
Toolguy said:
Just another point to ponder. The B7800, B2630 and B3030 Kubotas are physically larger tractors than the JD2520. While the JD may do anything you need it to do, this is not a straight apples to apples comparison. Another way to compare them would be to think of the B7800 and the B3030 as 30 HP tractors, sized accordingly, and the JD2520 as a 26 HP tractor sized to correspond to its' HP. The B2630 is a large tractor with a smaller engine. If you have time you should look and drive both of them before you buy. That way you will never have the doubt in your mind that you may have made a mistake. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. Too bad you missed on the the chance to get a B2630 for the same price as the JD2520. The orange tractor is simply more bang for the buck, IMHO. And I am a JD guy that bought a Kubota. Go figure. Good luck.


The 2520 weighs more than the 2630. They are closer to the same size than you think.
 
   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag... #65  
You can easily add weight if you need it. The same thing cannot be said about about taking weight off. I have researched, looked at and touched both of those tractors. The Kubota is bigger. It lifts more and lifts it higher. It has a 3 speed transmission, a definate advantage over a 2 speed. What is amazing is that the Kubota has a tighter turning radius to boot. Facts are facts. One is an apple and one is an orange. They are both sweet. Take your pick.
 
   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag... #66  
Toolguy said:
You can easily add weight if you need it. The same thing cannot be said about about taking weight off. I have researched, looked at and touched both of those tractors. The Kubota is bigger. It lifts more and lifts it higher. It has a 3 speed transmission, a definate advantage over a 2 speed. What is amazing is that the Kubota has a tighter turning radius to boot. Facts are facts. One is an apple and one is an orange. They are both sweet. Take your pick.

I did the same thing but I didnt walk away with the same conclusion you did (regarding the B2630 ). Bigger ? ground clearance of about 2" yes ( actually means little to me), 3 transmission speed yes (that is a plus, but depends on the HST which is strong on the Deere as well as top speed). You forgot to mention the backhoe having a 1 ft advantage (that to me is a big deal). Loader height dosent really matter since neither unit will load a 10 yarder or triaxle truck like a skid steer (the Deere clears my mason dump body just fine). I found the fit and ergo's to Deere's advantage (2 foot pedals and brakes on opposite side of each vs awkward same side setup). I also found the finish to be in Deere's favor (personal opinion).i.e like why the front loader quick attach is not standard on Kubota? I did not like the grease fittings and bolts on the bota's 403 loader. Deere's unique offset head design eliminates cross-pins and cotter pins to retain the pin. Im not convinced at all on the hydrolic advantage - I suspect Deere's spec's are too low - nothing negative on Kubotas part. I also found the loader speed on the deere to be faster both up and down, and that was just my observation today...as mentioned earlier these machines are closer in spec's than they are apart. But I freely admit that Kubota has a few advantages, and to me the biggest would be the Hoe digging depth, and if the deeres spec's were correct (which I feel they arent) then Kubota has the edge there as well - Im also surprised the pricing wasnt in Kubotas favor, I didnt expect that.
Overall I could be very happy with either machine, but in this case the Deere came home. The good news is there is always room for Orange in my heart and garage...

Duc
 
   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag... #67  
Toolguy said:
Just another point to ponder. The B7800, B2630 and B3030 Kubotas are physically larger tractors than the JD2520.

FYI - the diameter of the front/rear tires for the B2620 & JD 2520 are the same, the difference in wheelbase is only 0.4 inches, and they are within 100 pounds of each other. IMO, the sizes are close enough to be a wash.
 
   / Just over a week away from a B7800, now a snag... #68  
I think I would be concerned about losing 200 pounds off my loader capacity. That is a lot of wt especial if you add a grapple but other than that it sounds like a fine deal if your happy. your the one who has to live with it so ultimately your the only one that need to approve LOL
 

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