Just Wondering

[houstonscott]

I have been wondering what I might use the two rear remote control valves for on the U5030. This sounds dumb but I am just discovering this stuff as this will be the first tractor I have ever really got to know. Today I just discovered remote hydraulic top and side links. Wow how cool. Seems like a great way to take advantage of those remotes for almost any implement you might use. Are hydraulic top/side links used much? Anyone ever use one.

HS

 

[k0ua]

I have been wondering what I might use the two rear remote control valves for on the U5030. This sounds dumb but I am just discovering this stuff as this will be the first tractor I have ever really got to know. Today I just discovered remote hydraulic top and side links. Wow how cool. Seems like a great way to take advantage of those remotes for almost any implement you might use. Are hydraulic top/side links used much? Anyone ever use one.

HS

They are used a lot for Top-n-Tilt by people who are lucky enough to have them, and who box-blade a lot.. apparently they are the cats meow for grading gravel roads. They keep you from having to stop and get off all the time to adjust the top link and to set the tilt angle. I have neither the hydraulic outlets :drool: or the box blade. but of course they can be used for a homebrew log splitter. or some of the larger rotary cutters have fold up wings that are hydraulic, or rear grader blades with hydraulic angle or in a pinch they can be used in lieu of a 3rd function valve for a grapple or snow blade on the front of the tractor, by running a hydraulic hose from the back of the tractor to the front of the torque tube on the FEL. The uses for a hydraulic outlet is really just limited by your imagination and what you can build or modify.

James K0UA

 

[avatar]

I just graded my driveway today for the first time with my new 4020 and kodiak back blade that can be set up with a remote cylinder so you can move the blade from the tractor seat, after getting on an off a dozen times I have convinced my self to get one.As koua stated in his post.. the possibilities are endless

 

[houstonscott]

Wow, I just got excited when I found out that hydraulic top/side links existed. They seem like a must have for the box and keeping the road. One more thing for the list of must haves.

HS

 

[fenix]

The remotes are very handy and a costly extra on most tractors.
With them you can power many things to make your work easier.
Postdriver, wood spliter, pull type bushhogs with hydraulic adjustiment,
just to name a few.

 

[I have no memory]

Most of the time remotes hydraulic outlets are used to move hydraulic rams. They could be for a top link or to lift something off the ground like a disk, planter, cultivator, pull-typ brush hog, dump trailer and of course your front end loader (same concept different location). You can also plumb into them and put lines running up to your bucket so you can use a grapple, tree shear, round bale grabber, etc. The only thing that I have that uses two hookups is my field cultivator which uses one set to lift up the wheels and one set to fold up the wings.

In some cases you can use the hydraulic to run hydralic motors like an hydraulic auger on a fertilizer/seed tender or on some planters.

In some other cases, if you have higher flow, you can use them for dirt augers, hydraulic brush hogs, hydraulic rototillers, etc. I would think that would be pushing it on the U5030 but you'd have to look at the specs closely for that. The thing they look at is flow rate, pressure and cooling capacity. When you pump a lot of oil like that it gets hot.

Most log splitters attached to a tractor, (via 3-pt), that I've seen don't use the remote hydraulics but have it's own hydraulic pump running off the PTO of the tractor. You probably wouldn't want to consider that anyway as running a 50hp tractor to run a log splitter that can be run with a 5 hp motor is not very efficient.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Very handy on heavy duty rear scraper blades if you have one that swings and tilts plus rotates. Use one cylinder to swing and one to tilt, if you have the right blade and the 3 rd hydraulic outlet, you can rotate the blade also. That makes it just like a road grader with infinite adjustments.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I could also remove the adjustable link on the rear wheels of my homemade 7 foot bush hog and use a cylinder to raise and lower the rear end to make the mower shred and chop more or clear the refuse quicker as needed. THis option would have been very handy when I first got my severally grown up acreage. Many times I had to raise the cutting height since I had no option to stop and raise the 3 rd arm linkage. This design gives me lots of options for adjustment. Please no comment from the safety police on lack of guards on the PTO shaft. I still havent decided if I really want them since you cant grease the joints easily or at all without carving off a section of the guard or adjust the clutch with guards in place. I will probably fix up a quickly removable screen to cover the shaft next to the mower gear box.

 

[rocknrod]

Back Hoe.
I'm going to get a PTO log splitter soon. :thumbsup:
It connects to them.
Side link, Top link:
http://fitritehydraulics.com/

 

[Gary Fowler]

Someone mentioned that it is not economical to run the tractor for supplying power to a hydraulic pump that can be ran with a 5 hp motor. While that may be true, why would we want to maintain another gasoline engine when we can hook the whole thing to the tractor and transport it to the tree to be split, split the wood, turn the tractor around and load the wood into the FEL and bring it home. All in one neat package. You wouldnt necessarily need to have your tractor running much above high idle as it isnt necessary to have the cylinder slam the wedge in at supersonic speeds anyway. Slower may take longer but is safer anyway so why rev up to run the cylinder with 10 or more GPM when 3-4 will do the job at near idle speed. Makes sense to me.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Top link would be handy. I dont think I could justify side link with no more dirt work than I do. Mostly I need level on the lift arms and I think the side link would be a bear to keep the lift arms adjusted level. NOW the top link would be a really good investment for ME as it is always needed tweaked a bit. I will have to look into that if I ever get to stay home long enough to actually use my tractor a bit. Would be really handy to just move the 3rd arm when hooking up to attach the pin then adjust as needed for operation of whatever you are hooked on to. May as well put one of those 3 remotes to work.

 

[I have no memory]

Gary,
It was me. It makes sense to some people that's why they have them. They also have those splitters on the front of skidsteers. My brother has one of those and he likes it because he can sit in his cab and split wood on his behind. I think 3-pt splitters make decent sense in a sub-compact or compact but I believe the person I was responding too had a U5030 which is 57 hp running a log splitter. If you got that machine why not bring the tree to the log splitter? You can do anything but to me when diesel is $4 a gallon why run 57hp to do a job a 5 hp machine can do?

What makes the most sense for me in an electric log splitter. I can bring the big chunks up near the furnace and fire it up in the dead of winter if I want to without any issue. I have an outdoor gasification furnace though so I don't do much splitting.

 

[Guesseral]

Well I was wondering what to use my remotes for. I have had my tractor for a year and haven't used them at all, I don't even know if they work. Comming from the old school tractors a ford Jubilee and an 841 that didn't have remotes I have always just made due without. I still have the tractors but I am wondering why.
I know this is an LS forum and all I have is a Montana but the lable on the frame says LS so here I am.
What do you guys mean when you talk about using the remotes for the top link?

 

[mwb]

What do you guys mean when you talk about using the remotes for the top link?

Tractor Hydraulic toplinks, Top-N-Tilt, Side link cylinders

 

[Guesseral]

Now that's cool! Boy could I have used that when I was younger and we farmed, that is if we had remote hydraulics on our old tractors that is.

Ok another question. How do other posters get the little information blurb at the bottoms of there posts like there tractor and toy information. I am sure they don't type it each time its always the same!

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

Ok another question. How do other posters get the little information blurb at the bottoms of there posts like there tractor and toy information. I am sure they don't type it each time its always the same!

Click on "My Home" near the top of the page. Then look at the options in the list on the left. That stuff is set up in your profile, specifically "Edit Signature".

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

What do you guys mean when you talk about using the remotes for the top link?

Here's what it looks like on my S3010:

top link

 

[Guesseral]

Ok lets see if my signature works out.

That picture is worth a thousand words. I really like the idea i'll have to see if I can find one, not because I need one but because I want one I can figure out what to do with it latter LOL.

 

[houstonscott]

Looks like a real slick and simple install. How does it work? Have you noticed it saves you time behind the tractor and you make adjustments you would have not stopped and performed before.? Looks exactly like I thought it might. I might paint it LS blue or maybe black.

HS

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

Looks like a real slick and simple install. How does it work? Have you noticed it saves you time behind the tractor and you make adjustments you would have not stopped and performed before.? Looks exactly like I thought it might. I might paint it LS blue or maybe black.

HS

You are exactly right -- yes, it was simple to install and has saved me tons of time when swapping out implements. It makes it so easy to "tweak" the position, or to totally change it when the landscape changes (say when using the cutter around a pond embankment.)

It works great. I bought my S3010 with a 5' box blade and cutter. Changing out between the two was a super pain, so I got a Harbor Freight 3-point quick hitch WITH THE TOP LINK ADAPTER. (You can search TBN for more info on it.) The quick hitch helped a lot for fast change outs, but then adjusting the top link became next biggest pain.

I shopped around and ended up going with Carter & Carter Machinery (the link that "mwb" posted above) due to their cylinders having "check valves" plus the excellent selection and documentation on how to pick the right stuff. Bought the top link cylinder & hose kit from them. Here's the original quote I got via email:

"Toplink 18-26.5"- $185 Hose kit $45 & $15 freight"

That's everything I needed. The hose kit came with the Pioneer-type 1/2" male couplers to hook up to the rear remotes. The only problem I had was they quoted me $15 for shipping, but charged me $20. (When I emailed and asked why I never got a response back. Not a "deal-breaker," but is annoying nonetheless.)

Note: I used teflon tape on the threads to connect the hoses to the cylinder. I've heard many say that's NOT cool because it can clog up stuff and cause damage. I haven't had any problems with my hydraulics, but I've used teflon pipe dope for the rest of my hydraulic enhancements.