King Kutter bush hog lower hitch pins

[TresCrows]

Kevin et al--with the KK standard cutter leveled to the proper cutting angle I could barely get the rear wheel off the ground. Yes, shortening the top link would raise the tailwheel but then it was needed to adjust it in order to mow. Not satisfactory. Changing my 3-point hole would help but then the top link would come nearly vertical--not acceptable. The geometry is incorrect for small tractors. They have the same set up on all their standard cutters and it may work for a larger tractor but a 2410--nope. I lowered the pins and turned them inward. The pins are now in the hole that did have a bolt in it. Now I can lift the tailwheel plenty high and I do not have to readjust the toplink for transit--now it is acceptable. J

 

[SteveV]

My eyeball thinks that top link attachment doesn't meet cat I specs. The angle of the toplink suggests that the implement is at least 3 inches too high probably 6. The hitch design is suppose to lift the implement level to the ground; raising the tail wheel would affect the entire lift range. My Landpride toplink is like 20 degrees from horizontal! Granted the cutter is in up position that toplink angle still looks steep. SteveV

 

[Mosey]

TresCrows - You did exactly what I plan to do, move the pins to the existing bottom hole that the 3pt bracket connects to. That's also what my brother did. That way I don't have to drill new holes, just enlarge the existing ones.

 

[Soundguy]

Not sure if you were actually asking.. or just baiting..

As you probably guessed, the discs with serations go toward the front and the axles angled to 'bite' more ( discs will look cupped 'in' and swept back. The rear axles, if they have smooth discs can be for leveling out the winrows.. and can be left with no angle, if you plan to use them that way.

Soundguy

"that hard mind you, just a PITA. I won't even go into how to configure the discs. There are multiple settings for the disc angles and what does each setting do for you. Hmmm... sounds like I need to throw a question out..."

 

[djradz]

On my Woods brush hog I did the same, but fortuneately they had a second set of holes already drilled. Seems like all these manufacturers are setting the points too high. Sometimes you here about severe enough cases where either the tires end up rubbing when the decks in the raised position or the PTO shaft hits the deck.

 

[TresCrows]

Yes Steve, I agree--that is what I am saying. I know KK are nice folks but you cannot desgn something with the "that looks about right" method because usually it winds up not about right. Their pins are to high and so is the toplink point and by dropping to the lower bolt holes that only worsens the angle of the top link I think. Small tractors have shorter arms and toplinks and therefore it is better for them to have the pins lower, the pins closer in spread and the toplink lower---the geometry of the 3-point arrangement and their shorter lengths dicatates this.
The picture might be deceiving, I have the hog way off the ground, the tractor is sitting in a hollow which makes the tailwheel appear closer to the ground, if I were on level concrete you would see that sucker way up now, I do not have to use max lift for transport but it is nice to be able to lift it high to get over stuff. J

 

[Mosey]

TresCrows – I moved the pivot arm (that the top link connects to) down to the bolt below it. That helped a little. It also allows it to swing farther back if you go through a ditch or something. You have to make sure your pin is not too long though, or it won’t fit between the brackets.

The reason for this post was because I was wondering how many other people had the same problem. Since so many do, King Kutter should consider drilling another set of holes so people could easily lower the pins. I have since found out I can get a 7/8" drill bit with a reduced shank to fit a 1/2" drill, so I don’t really mind spending the money on a drill bit, since I plan to make my own carry all (and probably some other things) and will need it for that anyway, but others might not want to spend the extra $25.

 

[TresCrows]

Danny, KK told me the pivot was not supposed to swing through or maybe we are not talking about the same thing. Yes, I may have to look into lowering the swivel/pivot to the next hole down. I will have to see what that takes but that will help lower the 3-point angle. Hmmmmmmmmm.
Yep, KK may be value priced but having to buy drills and welders and what not to make the stuff work is not cost effective and my time is pretty valuable too. Someone at KK needs to get a tape measure out and go look at a modern compact utility not a Ford 8N. J

 

[Dooze]

Tres,
I have a 40" KingKutter on my BX1800 and have had trouble with the deck digging in when mowing rough terrain. Did lowering the lift holes make the cutter run smoother over the dips and swails?

 

[TresCrows]

Dooze--I think that is SOP with a brush cutter--they are not a grooming mower but yes if you lower the pins and as suggested by another lower the swivel link in the top holes you will find it much easier to adjust your unit. J