Kinky Question: Chains or Straps?

   / Kinky Question: Chains or Straps? #11  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The one I like the second best is the Jordan Ultima unit, it is the only other one I found that has a physical connection to the vehicles brakes. Most of them (not saying they are bad) use a sensor of some type (typically inertia) to determine when and how hard to apply the brakes. The Jordan Ultima unit costs about $110 to $135 and is an American company.
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Bob, I have been using the Jordan for 2 years now, it is great, you will not regret your choice. It is the smoothest controller I have ever used( 4 others in different vehicles).
 
   / Kinky Question: Chains or Straps? #12  
<font color="red"> Listened to a knowledgeable dealer tell me today that electric brakes and their controllers were second fiddle to surge brakes </font> I think he is nuts. As the owner of a truck fleet, I can tell you I wouldn't allow them in my fleet.

<font color="red"> Said the electrics take a signal from the cold lead of the brake lights - by my figuring that signal is either on or off. </font> Again that would be an error. Any of the modestly sophisticated controllers (those starting over $50 or $60) use inertia and pendulums and adjust the amount of brake force needed it is by no means a simple ON/OFF switch.

<font color="red"> I found it additionally attractive that I didnt have to wire a dedicated (one vehicle only) box into my suburban, then hope I have it dialed in right and change it with loads and weather. </font> Well its true you have to wire them in, but many have a harness and can be snapped out and moved from vehicle to vehicle provided you have a harness in each one. Now I'll also say you have to adjust the controllers with the loads, some more often and some less often, but I sort of figure that if I can figure it out, then pretty much anyone can do it because I don't claim to be too bright about this stuff, but it really is simple.

<font color="red"> The surge can be pulled with any vehicle, needs no box and is relatively foolproof in case my father in law wants to borrow it to pull it with his rice burner! </font> Honestly I so strongly disagree with this statement because I simply don't think you will find it to be remotely close to true that I don't know where to begin to address it.

<font color="red"> also as many have mentioned, reliability is no joke when hauling this much gear and $$. </font> And that alone is a good reason not to use something that so many people consider vastly inferior and borderline unsafe.
 
   / Kinky Question: Chains or Straps? #13  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Listened to a knowledgeable dealer )</font>

Hey, Bob, he may be very knowledgeable . . . . in some field, but he sure doesn't know anything about trailer brakes, does he? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I think surge brakes are a great idea . . . for boat trailers that are going to be backed into the water, and for rental trailers that are going to be rented to customers with no brake controller in their vehicle, and have absolutely no other use for them myself.
 
   / Kinky Question: Chains or Straps?
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#14  
ok ok , I got it...I'll stay with the electrics.

Now tell me if you feel as strongly about 7kvs10k GVWR and double or single axle brakes.

Assumed max load (heck everything I can think of for now - a 20 footer will only hold so much at once - probably not this much physically)
2900# JD3720+800# 300CX FEL+400# BB1060+ 1000# BH448+400# PHD=5500lbs. total+ trailer.

Thanks guys - just the straifing I needed!
 
   / Kinky Question: Chains or Straps? #15  
Hi,

Go with brakes on both axles. Regarding 7k vs 10k:

I would go with the 10k. If your payload is going to be in the neighborhood of 5000#, you should be looking at around 2900 pounds of trailer for hauling. That takes you beyond the 7k. My Hyd. tilt is 10k and I like the feeling of knowing I'm not "on the edge" when I load. Here anything over 10K GVWR being towed requires a class "A" CDL.
 
   / Kinky Question: Chains or Straps? #16  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( tell me if you feel as strongly about 7kvs10k GVWR and double or single axle brakes )</font>

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif What's the cost difference, how often, how far are you going to pull it, and what kind of terrain? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I've pulled overloaded trailers before, and I've pulled trailers with no brakes, but it shore ain't the preferred thing to do. If you're ordering a new trailer, it's cheaper and easier to do it right the first time than to change later. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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